Posts by NVR2L8

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WatchTower 1/2013 Not THE END again?!

by BlindersOff1 in

another interesting video by "the snarky apologist" on youtube.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3aqh5xnzxa&feature=em-uploademail.

JWs have not "disfellowshipped" anyone publicly in several years

by RayPublisher in

if you want to get technical, jws have not "disfellowshipped" anyone publicly in several years.

they stopped saying,.

"joe blow has been disfellowshipped.

They do this so JWs can't make the distinction between those who leave the truth from those who are expelled for wrongdoing...both groups end up getting shunned regardless of their actions. The other tactic the WTS uses to avoid holding a judicial commitee is to ask the sinner if he wishes to disassociate, blurring the line between ones who wish to avoid judicial action and those who simply don't want to have anything to do with the JWs. We all know that everyone will find out through gossip if one was disfellowshipped or if he disassociated...and in the latter case they will conclude the person sinned and didn't want help from the elders.

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I am new here and need help...or just a listening ear

by Fallingaway in

my husband and i have two small children, one of which recently became an unbaptised publisher and joined the school.

my husband is an elder and firmly committed to our family and loves me deeply as i love him.

i would like to find a way for all of us to fade away as we have family in the organization that we do not want to lose.

NVR2L8

Marked

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What Was Your "Status" Within The Organization?

by minimus in

jw
friends

were you a sought after associate?.

were you often invisible?.

did other witnesses view you as "exemplary"?.

NVR2L8

When I was growing up I was the "poster boy" who was in assembly dramas and interviews. I was a MS at 21 (married) and I had special privileges with a hearing impaired group...(no it's not me in the masturbation video). Prior the the elder arrangement I was assistant book study conductor and I would get a call to take any of the groups at a time when there was no fixed schedule for the book study...(remember those days when one group would finish their book and review for a few weeks to let other groups catch up). I was also the go-to guy to help pioneers learn a foreign language, help them move, fix their car...you know the drill. I never qualified as an elder...but I gave public talks and was a book study conductor and with time took care of all the different duties for a MS except for hall maintenance. Looking back I now realized that I worked at 2 jobs all my life but was only paid for one...

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One experience in our old Kingdom Hall that still HAUNTS me

by Newly Enlightened in

the following is a true experience and my daughter gojira101 will verify that it happened to her.

an experience from our family's past that still haunts me and started my questioning whether this is the true organization of god or not.. my daughter, who has always been a good kid, never gave us any problems [she's an adult now] started regular pioneering.

within a few weeks of her starting, she fell on a steep hill and tore open her knee and had to have several stitches.

NVR2L8

Welcome NE and G.

Elders are company man who act according to strict direction from the WTS. When there is no defined procedure they have to use their own "judgement"...and that's when the trouble starts...they have none because in most cases things are all thought out for all JWs.

We had the book study at our house and at the end the study the elder announced that the group would move to another location without warning us ahead of time. My wife started crying and left the room and I went behind her with our children. Some of the friends came upstairs after us and were shocked that we weren't told before nor given a reason. Later that night the elder called and asked if he could come by the following night to explain. I said he could and when he arrived I didn't invite him in...he told us that I didn't join them for service every Saturday morning and that was setting a bad example...he knew my work situation had changed and that I went out during the week when I knew I wasn't going to be able to join them on a Saturday. He didn't apologize for his rudeness and I asked him if he was done...he said yes, so I closed the door in his face. By the way our new group was meeting at his house...

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Does an "all knowing" God have the leisure of choosing not to know something?

by wannabefree in

this concept just always caused a conflict in my mind.

i can remove the idea of predestination with knowing something in advance, why would the watch tower insist that god chooses not to know something?

is that even possible for god?

NVR2L8

Just think of this - you know that your best friend is in grave danger of losing his life and you have the possibility to save him: how do you decide "not to know" and how could you live with yourself for letting him die when you could have saved him? Sickning isn't it? If God is almighty and forknows everything, what good does this do if he doesn't exercise his powers...I am a brain surgeon but I chose to fix cars...what good does that do for those who need brain surgery?

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How Long has it Been since you Last Attended Meetings and What Caused...

by flipper in

jw
friends

..... you to stop attending ?

injustices ?

disagree with the teachings ?

NVR2L8

June 13 2012 right after the final talk at the DC. The generation overlap was discussed in the WT study review and in the final talk. I had been researching the truth for quite a while and I had stepped down as a MS a few months before. Seeing the whole audience going along and applauding at the generation "new light" that had no scriptural support or even a valid and clear explanation made me realize that only brainwashed clones could go along with this nonsense. I told my wife that was it...no more meetings. A few months later I attended a funeral talk (WT info-commercial) where everyone attending were jocking and laughing before the start of the talk...Never again.

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Letter about placing TWICE as many magazines!

by 88JM in

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friends

hahahaha...... .

2013-01-09 (wednesday).

dear brothers:.

NVR2L8

Apostates knew months ago the mags need to be sorted and predicted that some would argue about whom should separate them...what a bunch of morons!

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NOT on JW.ORG ; Arab newspaper's viewpoint on Jehovah's Witnesses and Watchtower.

by Balaamsass in

2012: hype and realism opedby: palestine chronicle.

december 28, 2012. by jamal kanj.

the year 2012 was the last in the 21st century to have matching day, month and year (12-12-12.

Doug Jones....names from the past...have not been to a meeting for a couple of years.