Usually when the cause of death is suicide everyone tries to keep it under cover because no one knows how everyonelse is going to react to the news. We had 2 suicides in the neighbouring congregation, a young man in his early 20's and a pioneer girl in her late 20's. Both had a talk at the KHall. Back home one of my best friends committed suicide 5 years ago. There was also a talk. In all cases they blamed it on depression and they were victims of Satan's world. I am very sad the see such desperation in young ones especially those who appear to be really happy in the congregation...that's what happens when you're taught to keep your doubts and negative feelings to yourself. If you confide in someone the solution always lies in doing more in service, praying more, waiting on Jehovah and hanging in there because the new system is sooooo close.
Posts by NVR2L8
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65A Brother Died At Bethel
by MrFreeze ini got a text from my mom when i got into work today saying that a brother i've known for a while had died.
he was a bethelite and they found him dead in his room.
he was the same age as me.
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How Does Your Family/ Friends Treat You Now That You Are Not A True Believer?
by minimus inhow do you feel about the treatment?.
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NVR2L8
I haven't made it official yet...but my sibblings know. My elderly mom may not yet know but the last time she called she only spoke to my wife who is still active. I just found out that they are all planning to visit us in the next few months. They all live 300 miles away and they will be staying in our home for a few days. My wife's JW relatives have also said they may come and visit...So I don't pray before meals and I won't go the the meetings with them...I'm sure that will shock some of them since I was probably to most active JW of the bunch.
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It's the little things...
by MrFreeze ini remember when friends would say something like "you wouldn't want to lose out on everlasting life over something so small, would you?
" this would usually be said to you when you were doing some little thing you weren't supposed to be doing as a jw... like watching an r-rated movie... having a beard.
i'm sure we've all heard it.. the thing that i've realized is that it works both ways.
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I agree....the blanket is always pulled in the same direction. My wife put on our fridge a message found in a fortune cookie that said: Do not let anyone stop you from doing what you believe is right. She was trying to let me know that I shouldn't attempt to pull her away from the "truth". When I saw the message I thanked her for no longer trying to stop me from doing what I believe is right (leaving the JWs)...you should have seen her face! A few days later the message disapeared...
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Tomorrow's Watchtower Study: Steve hits Selma in North America... not South America
by Alfred ini started a thread a few days ago that probably went unnoticed for the most part (under "scandals & cover-ups") regarding steve hitting selma in tomorrow's wt study... i just wanted to recap it here for those who may have missed it.... the spanish version changes the story completely.... if you've read that paragraph 12 it basically says that steve hit selma as she tried to prove a point.
selma then feels sorry for herself.. in the spanish version steve merely gets furious with her and she gets sad.. by the way, i just looked up the italian version... .
selma ricorda una lezione che imparo dalla sorella che le conduceva lo studio.
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Wha...the way I am going to bring this up with my wife is that 5 years ago we had a brother live with us for a year because his (bipolar) wife kicked him out of their home because he was abusive...the elders sided with her and gave us a hard time for having him under our roof. When they went to court she had to admit he never touched her and that the "abuse" was verbal...still she could not even recall anything in particular! According to the WT "new light" she should have stayed with her husband even if he smacked her around...this couple was married 15 years...2 years short of the exemple in the article...
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Tomorrow's Watchtower Study: Steve hits Selma in North America... not South America
by Alfred ini started a thread a few days ago that probably went unnoticed for the most part (under "scandals & cover-ups") regarding steve hitting selma in tomorrow's wt study... i just wanted to recap it here for those who may have missed it.... the spanish version changes the story completely.... if you've read that paragraph 12 it basically says that steve hit selma as she tried to prove a point.
selma then feels sorry for herself.. in the spanish version steve merely gets furious with her and she gets sad.. by the way, i just looked up the italian version... .
selma ricorda una lezione che imparo dalla sorella che le conduceva lo studio.
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Wha...showing her the two different version may cause her to doubt that the story is true...did he hit her or was he only furious...which one is it? It can only be one or the other.
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Tomorrow's Watchtower Study: Steve hits Selma in North America... not South America
by Alfred ini started a thread a few days ago that probably went unnoticed for the most part (under "scandals & cover-ups") regarding steve hitting selma in tomorrow's wt study... i just wanted to recap it here for those who may have missed it.... the spanish version changes the story completely.... if you've read that paragraph 12 it basically says that steve hit selma as she tried to prove a point.
selma then feels sorry for herself.. in the spanish version steve merely gets furious with her and she gets sad.. by the way, i just looked up the italian version... .
selma ricorda una lezione che imparo dalla sorella che le conduceva lo studio.
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Wha...showing her the two different version may cause her to doubt that the story is true...did he hit her or was he only furious...which one is it? It can only be one or the other.
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Tomorrow's Watchtower Study: Steve hits Selma in North America... not South America
by Alfred ini started a thread a few days ago that probably went unnoticed for the most part (under "scandals & cover-ups") regarding steve hitting selma in tomorrow's wt study... i just wanted to recap it here for those who may have missed it.... the spanish version changes the story completely.... if you've read that paragraph 12 it basically says that steve hit selma as she tried to prove a point.
selma then feels sorry for herself.. in the spanish version steve merely gets furious with her and she gets sad.. by the way, i just looked up the italian version... .
selma ricorda una lezione che imparo dalla sorella che le conduceva lo studio.
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Jehovah, the God of Parking Lots
by 00DAD inthis idea was brought up on another thread today, but i thought this particular angle deserved it's own thread.
have you ever noticed that jws that have completely swallowed the kool-aid are really whacked in their thinking when it comes to interpreting life's events.
bb, "because i got the parking place and they didn't.
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I told my sister that God provides a used car to a pioneer in need but doesn't intervene when a sexually abused child begs him to stop the pain...
God answered my prayer and provided me a job the day after the company I worked for 27 years shut down my division but he didn't answer my prayer when I asked him to spare the life of my best friend who died from cancer...I would rather be on unemployed than without my friend!
By the way, that new job that was such a blessing from God is now turned into a trap from Satan since I am working all that overtime and missing all my meetings!
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Is this $h!t Written for Idiots?
by Yan Bibiyan inlike the warning given to.
it comes from god through.
"...they obeyed the warning that god had sent by means of angels".
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The Bible Teach book states that God doen't interfere in favor of man because it would make it appear like Satan's world is succeeding...then how can JWs claim angels are guiding the preaching work...isn't this implying that God is interfering?
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2011 Yearbook= BEARDS are still for non-Witnesses ONLY!!!! Beard Fear?
by Witness 007 in1960's the watchtower pictures showed jesus clean shaven and with short hair {watch 1954 p.511 "why do watchtower books now show jesus with short hair and no beard?
....because he is shown that way in representations that are older than the traditional effeminate looking pictures..."}.
yearbook 2011 p.57 "a bearded man named eric showed up at a congregation in the united states {oh god a bearded man!!!
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NVR2L8
I was often involved in dramas at the District Conventions and in the the early days of costumed dramas some brothers grew their own beard. Then all those who were in dramas were told to keep quiet about the subject of the dramas and that growing a beard would not be a good idea if you didn't want others to know you were a participent. Of course while you were growing a beard you would not be fit to go out in the ministry...At a quick build in my own congregation I was turned away because I hadn't shaved for a couple of days. I had no intention of growing a beard, I had been on site almost day and night and hardly went home to shower and shave...I guess my unshaven face nullified all the free labour I had put in and God could not see through the facial hair.