Nolaw, math is an accurate science where there is only one way to get the right result. The student's challenge may also reveal that the teacher is wrong and any smart teacher would take this opportunity to correct his view. The WT on the other hand is always right even when they are wrong and they never see a challenge as an opportunity to rectify their view. Instead they vilify, visolate and silence any dissident regardless if they are right or wrong. In time the WT may decide that "new light" has provided a clearer understanding of the scriptures with no admission of being wrong before...This reminds me of what happened to Carl Olof Jonsson who attemted to provide a clearer understanding of the Gentile Times and how Jerusalem was never destroyed in 607 BCE...
Posts by NVR2L8
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25How to counter a stupid illustration in the Bible Teach Book
by NVR2L8 inthe bible teach book uses the example of a math teacher who is challenged by a student who disagrees on how to resolve a math problem.
the teacher then lets him attempt to prove his point knowing that he can only fail.
the object of the exercise is to show the rest of the students that the teacher is right - that there is only one way to resolve the math problem....this is likened to jehovah letting satan exercise his power over the world so that the entire universe can witness his failure and that only jehovah's ways lead to happiness.... instead of maths, what if the teacher taught chemistry and a student would want to prove that the teacher is wrong when he says that certains chemicals can't be mixed without causing an explosion that would wipeout the school...would any sane, responsible, loving teacher allow such a student to experiment and wipeout the whole class just so the teacher can prove he was right?
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How Will the Society React to the Hundred Year Anniversary of 1914?
by slimboyfat init's only a couple of years away now and what a headache it must present to the gb - providing they have given it much thought already.
there probably is no elegant way of presenting the hundred year long failure of the end to come; the fact that the "short period of time" of satan being cast down to the earth has now stretched beyond any credibility.
but they have to deal with it one way or another.
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They already reacted with their "generation overlap" making the 100 year anniversary irrelevant since there are still many alive from that generation...
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Why the name "Governing Body?"
by skeeter1 inthe krishna also use the term "governing body", and that struck me.. the koreshans, a defunct cult, also used the term "governing body" to describe an all woman council that lead their group.. governing body makes it sound all so official and unquestionable.
or, is it my upbringing that makes it so?.
from wiki .
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I agree with Cedars. At one point the "business" side of the WT was separated from the "spiritual" side of the organizations...the Governing Body was now only responsible for providing the spiritual food and directing the preaching work while other capable (read business-savy) brothers and lawyers would take care of corporate matters....
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How to counter a stupid illustration in the Bible Teach Book
by NVR2L8 inthe bible teach book uses the example of a math teacher who is challenged by a student who disagrees on how to resolve a math problem.
the teacher then lets him attempt to prove his point knowing that he can only fail.
the object of the exercise is to show the rest of the students that the teacher is right - that there is only one way to resolve the math problem....this is likened to jehovah letting satan exercise his power over the world so that the entire universe can witness his failure and that only jehovah's ways lead to happiness.... instead of maths, what if the teacher taught chemistry and a student would want to prove that the teacher is wrong when he says that certains chemicals can't be mixed without causing an explosion that would wipeout the school...would any sane, responsible, loving teacher allow such a student to experiment and wipeout the whole class just so the teacher can prove he was right?
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Thanks boc,
My son's personal copy of the book was left on the kitchen table and the page was folded...so I took a look and these 2 illustrations just jumped at me eventhough I was familiar with them I had never given them much thought since I was trained to accept without question everything I read from the WT..
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How to counter a stupid illustration in the Bible Teach Book
by NVR2L8 inthe bible teach book uses the example of a math teacher who is challenged by a student who disagrees on how to resolve a math problem.
the teacher then lets him attempt to prove his point knowing that he can only fail.
the object of the exercise is to show the rest of the students that the teacher is right - that there is only one way to resolve the math problem....this is likened to jehovah letting satan exercise his power over the world so that the entire universe can witness his failure and that only jehovah's ways lead to happiness.... instead of maths, what if the teacher taught chemistry and a student would want to prove that the teacher is wrong when he says that certains chemicals can't be mixed without causing an explosion that would wipeout the school...would any sane, responsible, loving teacher allow such a student to experiment and wipeout the whole class just so the teacher can prove he was right?
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The Bible Teach book uses the example of a math teacher who is challenged by a student who disagrees on how to resolve a math problem. The teacher then lets him attempt to prove his point knowing that he can only fail. The object of the exercise is to show the rest of the students that the teacher is right - that there is only one way to resolve the math problem....This is likened to Jehovah letting Satan exercise his power over the world so that the entire universe can witness his failure and that only Jehovah's ways lead to happiness...
Instead of maths, what if the teacher taught chemistry and a student would want to prove that the teacher is wrong when he says that certains chemicals can't be mixed without causing an explosion that would wipeout the school...would any sane, responsible, loving teacher allow such a student to experiment and wipeout the whole class just so the teacher can prove he was right? Isn't this what Jehovah is doing? Letting billions of people suffer and die just to prove to the angels that he is right. Who else is he proving something to? Surely no one on earth since no one is aware of this sovereignty challenge taking place in heaven....except of course for the JWs.
In the same chapter you can read that Jehovah does not intervene to prevent evil because it would make things look like Satan is right and that this old system is succeeding and he would be supporting the lie. So dad has several sons and he tells them to stay away from the river bank because they could fall in and drown. The oldest son tells his 5 year old brother that it is safe to play by the river, that he won't drown...and the boy falls in. What kind of a father would let the boy drown just to prove to all his other sons that he was right. Or what king of a father would refuse to save the boy because it would make it seem like the older son was right in telling the boy that he wouldn't drown....
It is so strange that I read this several times without ever clueing in on the insanity of such reasoning...and now I can clearly see the deceptive reasoning used by the WT.
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What's the JW reaction to new 16 page mags????
by diamondiiz inif you've been to the meeting when the letter was read, what was jw reaction????
just curious if it was just another sign that the end is nearer or did any wake up for a second to realize the corporation is downsizing due to costs..
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Not even a mention in my household...
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Identifying marks of the true religion
by ex360shipper insaw this on jwtalk they were putting down apostates and posted this quote:.
watchtower 1982 3/1 p. 8. .
identifying marks of true religion .
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NVR2L8
The identifying marks listed above are according to the WT's definition...they also self-proclaim to be the Faithful Slave, God's organisation, to be guided by the Holy spirit...to be the happiest people in the world...
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The Special Talk.....
by wha happened? inwifey attends the spanish cong, so when we ran late in our errands, she started to get upset that she was going to miss the special talk.
i told her again, and i reminded her that we already talked about this topic.
the special talk is just a new outline.
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My wife attended the meeting but as usual she made no comments on the talk or the special announcement. My son and his family were away for the week end but they were supposed to attend the meeting where they were visiting...that didn't happen. So I was quite surprised that when they returned my wife didn't say anything about the new 16 page mags...BTW I printed out the 1968 Awake with the article Is is later than you think and left it on my desk in my office...lately my son and one of his buddies did some work on a PC and the print out was right there...I hope that they were curious enough to take a look...
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Emblem stupidity, and the bizarre dance of the confused memorial-taker
by cedars inwell, i went along to the memorial with mrs cedars.
it was my first since my "awakening" just less than a year ago.
apparently i made a lot of people happy by being there (even if it was only building up false hopes), the most important of which were my family.
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DJ - thanks for explaining to me what I wrote...without your kind help I would not have not understood my own words...Jesus celebrated Passover with the apostles...which was according to Jewish tradition on Nisan 15th, on the first full moon after the spring equinox...this year where I live this happened on Friday April 6th...If the date of the celebration is based on when the full moon is first visible in Jerusalem, then it wouldn't really matter if the emblems were passed before or after sundown in North America...because it would already be night in Jerusalem...Getting back to jewish traditions, I have far more trust in Jewish historians than the WT self- proclaimed "scholars"...
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The Flood - ? So how did kangaroos get to Australia? How come they are no where else?
by BroMac in*** w62 1/15 p. 64 questions from readers ***.
questions from readers.
how can we account for animals in isolated lands when the flood is said to have covered all the earth and the only land animals that survived were those in the ark?p.
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According to the recording of a talk I heard from bethel member Ciro Aulicino, it was Pangaea...when all continents were "one"...the problem is that may have occured 300 million years ago, not 4,000...