once on the radar, it takes years to be too low to be seen. do you want to give any details
Hoffnung
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New development in my life
by EdenOne inno longer a ms ........................... can't give details atm, for it might be a dead-giveaway and it ain't quite over yet.
but, it really taught me one thing: if you're trying to fade or stay in, trust no one.
and i mean no one.. eden.
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Turns out it was true - "the truth" was the only reason my marriage lasted so long
by Shattered Reality ini haven't really been on here in like, a year.
my stbx introduced me to this site and then a whole buch of life happened and i just sort of never had time for forums.
but here i am at 3am, another sleepless night, and i feel like i am simply lost.
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Hoffnung
quite obviously your hubby is exploiting you big time. a parasite as far as i can see. and blown all the chances to straighten up. he needs a good kick in the butt
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Some JW on the street, my reaction...
by sp74bb intoday i had some of my worst experiences.
i saw a jw group walking on preaching.
one of them knows me well, we share a lot of week-end on rbc.. my first reaction was rage and nerves.
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Hoffnung
Funny enough, a happy former JW does not fit into the view of JW, so they are very unprepared to handle this. Usually if you approach with a friendly long-time-no-see-how-are-you-doing greet, they will respond in kind. Of course it can be very different if you are DF'd.
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The genius of the new donation arrangement
by thedepressedsoul inive given this new arrangement a lot of detailed thought and how greatly it benefits the wt and how much it puts a strain on each congregation.. first, let me explain how the old arrangement worked.. you had 3 donation boxes in each kingdom hall.
one for worldwide work, one for kingdom hall construction and one for congregation contributions.. the congregation contribution box accounted for about 60-75% of all donations.
the world wide work box probably accounted for 20-30% and the kingdom hall construction for about 5% of the contributions.
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Hoffnung
if anything, it gives the organisation way more leverage over the elders and congregations, and will be very hard for any body of elders to stand up against the organizations wishes
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2014-03-29 BOE CONFIDENTIALS PDF Adjustment to financing Kingdom Hall and Assembly Hall construction worldwide
by WatchTower87 in2014-03-29 adjustment to financing kingdom hall and assembly hall construction worldwide.
pdf version: http://adf.ly/juxnc.
instruction: press the 'skip ad' button top right, you should then see the download screen more easily.
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Hoffnung
probably the orginal recipient of the letter is in an English or other foreign language congregation served by the italian branch. Nothing special.
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Genesis account shaken!
by exWTslave inpeople who believe that every verse of the bible is inspired are in for a shock.
according to genesis account, god created heavens and the earthin a one-time act.
but an experiment conducted at the south pole, two weeks back, has caught ripples in the oldest light in the universe.
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Hoffnung
There are no 'records' of a global flood, nor are there any of the garden of eden. Genesis was written around 1500 BCE, most of the events described therein happened way earlier, and nobody that could have seen these events was alive when Genesis was written.
if someone would write an unreferenced book about events from a 1000 years ago, that cannot be called 'records'. they can be called stories.
Geologists are quite well-placed to inform us when the land mass of the earth was one continent, the drifting apart of the continents happened way earlier than 4000 years ago. The last supercontinent was called Pangaea in their terminolgy, and the final stage of breaking up into the continents of today happened 55 million years ago. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pangaea (check for 'evidence of existence' and 'rifting and break-up')
the practical problems with the worldwide flood account like: 'how did the animals get back to their original ground' can therefore not be solved without throwing proven scientific evidence in the bin.
Obviously you are always free to choose to believe what you want, however it should not be called truthfull, reliable info from a divine source, if it is so easy to prove its not correct
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Circuit Overseer wakes up, packs his bags and leaves!
by Anony Mous ini just heard this about a co i knew back in the day before he was even a co. he must be in his mid-late 40's now, my mother told me the story as she knows the family very well (the entire family has gone 'apostate' including several elders, circuit overseers and missionaries - this was an "example" family, always on the stage etc).. he wasn't 'feeling well' so he took time off from his co duties.
that week he packed his suitcase, told his wife he can't do it anymore and he's leaving, leaves her the car and the house and went to live in a small apartment, bought a small car and a week later got a decent job.. this was very recent so not everybody within the org has heard yet what happened..
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Hoffnung
Hey AM, i know who your talking about. he used to give all the talks for younsters at the district assemblies. He never was assigned where I live, but I moved to another country more than 10 years ago. i read your life story, and we might even have met when you were still living in Belgium. I send you a PM
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GB's letter regarding UN membership - How Do You Prove Them Wrong?
by will-be-apostate ini was reading brant jones' experience (published on jwfacts.com).
i read both letters: the one he wrote to the gb and the one he recieved from them.
link: http://jwfacts.com/watchtower/experiences/brantjonesunresponse.pdf.
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Hoffnung
Would it be acceptable for a JW to join the Catholic Church, just to have access to some of the extensive services some of Catholic institutions provide? the answer is clearly NO.
So no excuse is really good enough in this case. If it is acceptable for the organization to join the UN, any JW can join any other religion as well.
And interestingly, just to prove that the organization indeed prostituted itself, and completely guilty as charged, can be revealed by doing a search in the WTLIB CD-ROM on the words "United Nations", and comparing the results between '92 and 2001 with any other similar period. it is striking how many 'positive' articles about the UN during the period 92-2001, and this almost completely stopped from 2002 onwards.
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exJW Psychology 105--"Are You Ready for The Big A?"
by Billy the Ex-Bethelite ini don't know how many others have gotten this question that i got recently.
i wonder if it was the co that thought this would be a great question to try to reactivate someone like me:.
at the time, i was kinda blindsided by the question and gave just an okay response.
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Hoffnung
hi Billy,
excellent way of handling this Armaggedon question. i guess something similar is going to come my way soon, with this new km article.
Hoffnung
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exJW Psychology 105--"Are You Ready for The Big A?"
by Billy the Ex-Bethelite ini don't know how many others have gotten this question that i got recently.
i wonder if it was the co that thought this would be a great question to try to reactivate someone like me:.
at the time, i was kinda blindsided by the question and gave just an okay response.
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Hoffnung
hi Sauloftarsus,
welcome to this board. the ideas we were programmed to believe an defend as JW's are more deeply entrenched in us than we want to admit. please take your time to do a lot of research here, jwfacts.com and many other places on the net (by all means, consider all sides of the argument) on what you consider your belief system. after all, if it is the truth, it will stand up against all scrutiny. it can be a bumpy ride, but you will be enlightened by doing so. many others on this board like you have made the journey
Hoffnung