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  Would You Care If You Were Disfellowshipped?

  by minimus in

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  would it have any impact on you?.

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  clearpoison

  Not for me personally, but I assume that it would make my family's life at least slightly more complicated.

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  Memorial PT Outline reflecting new songbook ....(pdf available)

  by yknot in

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  clearpoison

  Thanks,

  Funny though, this is new outline, but I just get weird feeling that I've heard it already, over and over again. Let's see for how many years...., no too revealing.

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  Who many anointed were there in 1992 ?

  by the max in

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  hi everyone, according to some dubs, the year on year increases the annointed is attributal to annointed ones in countrys previously not able to register, for example in former ussr,since the iron curtain came down in circa 1990, i would like to have information regarding the numbers from around this time and onwards, and if you have any comments on these assertions from the dubs, i would appreciate them, regards .

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  Obviously it took 16 years for anointed in Warsaw pact to wake up and realise their true status.

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  If You Could Choose The Manner Of Your Death...What Would It Be?

  by Was New Boy in

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  most people really don't want to think about it....but if you could choose, how would like to leave the planet?.

  going out with a bang could be fun..... dying as a martyr?.

  dying as a hero saving someone?.

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  While sleeping, thank you

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  How Many JWs Have You known Who Have Commited Suicide?

  by Was New Boy in

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  james olsen and richaed wheellock both bethelites.. rich templet.

  rich and james out of guilt, richard out of depression.. james and rich were both under 30 years old.. after richard wheelock (a bethel heavy) killed himself the society changed it's stand on whether suicides could be resurrectioned or not..

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  clearpoison

  One

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  Got my first tattoo since DA'ing

  by WhatWasIThinking in

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  on the inside of my arm.

  first one in probably 7+ years.

  i forgot what it felt like and how sensitive the armpit is..

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  What was you thinking?

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  JW superstitions about the memorial -

  by james_woods in

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  now that we are all thinking about jw memorial - i was just remembering all the silly superstitions the jws have put around this - their only holiday.

  as far as i can tell, none of these are actually biblical:.

  1) - it must be held only once per year.. 2) - it must be held on "nisan 14".. 3) - it must be held after sundown.. 4) - the bread must be unleavened.. 5) - the wine must be plain (not fortified) red wine.

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  clearpoison

  We didn't had the mandatory touching part, for short rows plate/glass servant could just reach with plate in front of attendants and they could then nod to show that they have been given the possibility. same for the last cart row and even with the speaker/servant up and down ceremony. The plate and glass was just put in front of you and the correct reaction was not to touch it but nod in kind of an acceptance/recognition.

  So there is local variation obviously here.

  One interesting detail, the wine used here in most of the memorial locations is the very same wine our main church is using for their communions. It is clearly stated in speech that the wine is commercially produced.

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  suicide and wts funeral rules

  by diamondiiz in

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  i just found out that a husband of an old friend committed a suicide and i was wondering if there are any letters to elders or any wts rules concerning funerals for those who committed suicide.

  i've looked in the elders book and letters to boe index and didn't find anything.

  some posts here say they can have the funeral at the kh and some here said they couldn't hold it there because suicide was involved.

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  I remember one case from my childhood, the attitude towards suicide was harder then that it seems to be today. It was mother to one mentally instabile child that took her own life. The child was already at that time taken in custody by authority and was placed in one children's home. She was not allowed to see her child. That was the last straw that broke camel's back obviously. She and the child were always looked down in congregation, the child behaved weirdly yes and was little rough, but was very amicable and tried hard to be allowed to play with us other "normal" kids. It was not really encouraged though.

  I remember still the things people were talking, she had rejected the truth by killing her self, what a pitty that her child would not be able to see her in paradise as she did what she did. It was quite clear that common understanding about her was that she maid unforgivable sin and would not be resurrected. There was nothing else in KH as the announcement that she had passed away, funeral was arranged in the graveyard chapel.

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  I've been banned by a non-mod

  by SweetBabyCheezits in

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  well, i guess this is it.

  i received a pm from a non-moderator (who will remain nameless) this afternoon telling me i've been banned.

  i didn't even know a non-mod could ban a poster from the forum but i read it for myself:.

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  clearpoison

  Maybe he ment banned in the Catholic way?

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  Meeting Day

  by captain in

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  has anyone ever had that dreaded "meeting day" feeling where you know you are going to waste two hours or more of your life - not to mention on the weekends where you can't go away for a whole day somewhere because you have fs on saturday, then a meeting on sunday?

  or when you know you have to catch up on work etc but you know that with weekly fs pressures plus the meeting you have lost six hours before the weekend has even started?.

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  Very nice stories thank's for those. As I never reached out for any assignments I cannot feel your pain. I pioneered for a while, was external helper on Bethel rebuild, active in KH building, but all that was activities outside the meetings. In meetings I made my teochratic school assignments mostly as requested (thankfully last years it was just the bible reading part, you could do it blindfolded and without any rehearsal), but that was more or less my activity, rest of the time I just attended. But be certain that if there was any valid activity that would collide with meeting I chose the activity outside the meeting. But it was based on assesment is this really more important than meeting. In many cases it was. One time I was even caught for TV on meeting night, spot that was shown later on evening news. One dear brother teased me about it for years, I just said I had to be there.

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