((((Puffy))))
I was wondering how you were doing.
Thanks for letting us know.
It's amazing how such a tragic time will show what people are really like.
I am very thankful that during my Dad's funeral, my brother and sisters were right there with me, all the way thru.
We lost him early Friday morning, and they flew home from Australia that night.
It was a higly stressful time for us all, but we kept it together.
Its a shame when all people see is $$$ and wanting to get as much as they can from the situation.
My Dad never had a lot, he stressed about not having enough money for me the night he passed away.
I told him not to worry about it, we can sort things out. It calmed him a little.
I was so thankful that the extended family helped us materially and emotionally.
Our JW mother however, caused some tension as our cultural ways are not in agreement to borg ways.
So she disregarded the traditional protocol and took liberties that offended many of my Dad's family.
We got thru it though.
I'm glad you have your hubby there to support you Puffs and hope that you keep all the good times with your Dad strong in your heart.
My Dad is always with me, and I will keep him forever in my heart.
Kep
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11My Father's Funeral
by teenyuck inas many of you know, my father passed away last monday.
i found out monday evening and flew into chicago wednesday morning, from columbus, ohio.
my dad's sister mary, and his best friend ed were close by and started handling all the funeral arrangements.
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Recovery Workshop for Former Group Members
by Dogpatch inrecovery workshop for former group members .
friday 3:00 p.m. july 12, 2002 to sunday 3:00 p.m. july 14, 2002. st. malo retreat and conference center, estes park, colorado (1 hr.
nw of denver).
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Randy,
That's awesome for many who are coming to terms with everything.
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Ashi's Apostasy---Part Last Formal Apostate
by ashitaka inmy future brother in law (futurebro) is a great guy, as ive mentioned.
he really cares about people, doesnt want to hurt anyones feelings.
yet, now he was trapped between doing the right thing, and possibly losing his parents.
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What a great experience.
You certainly have a gift Ashi, not only to write this down, but especially in being able to free many people.
All the best for you and Water.
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Ashi's Apostasy---Part 5 Upward Spiral
by 25ashitaka25 intime has passed; things have quieted.
it was a nice, relaxing time, with a few jw hiccups here and there, just general gossip and harassment from the wife's parents...nothing new.. then, my sister met a wonderful guy.
and it just so happens he's a jw....that's where the similarities with the religion end.
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Kep
Man, what a load of cr*p you have to go thru.
Ashi, thanks for your experiences, I thought I had a battle, but you guys have had to put up with and endure so much.
But as you show, there is some light there with members of your family seeing the borg for what it is.
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my family, my da status and my s-i-l (VENTING)
by peaceloveharmony inwell, i had a run in with my sister in law this weekend.
nothing direct between me and her since she shuns me.
but my brother dave told me something that just pissed me off to no end.
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(((((((PLH))))))))
I'm sorry to hear how your be-arch s-i-l is making life miserable for you.
As you can see we are all here for you, and many of us have been thru or are still going thru the same issues with our families.
When I was feeling the cold shoulder from my brother and sisters I had ocassions to talk to my JW mother about it.
I knew there wasn't much she could do about it, but I felt better telling her how I felt.
Even now, I still tell her that I excerised my right as a family member to go to her place and visit, whether the other kids liked it or not.
My family have snapped out of that buzz and accept me warts and all, but it was a battle to get here.
I hope your situation settles down and as you can tell we are all here for you.
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What about normalcy? Is it even an option?
by watergoddess inwhat about normalcy?
is it even an option?
am i hoping in vain for something that wont come?
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WG,
I still have problems with making friends, real friends, the true ones that will be there for you when you need them.
I had them when I was one of the good guys, then when I was out, they never knew me.
It is a battle to have good, honest and genuine friends. It would be just as hard for you and Ashi to find other people that you can trust.
I still, after 7 years, have few people that I call my friends. Although in the last 8 months I have re-aquainted with 3 of them as they are also out now.
You guys have each other and that's awesome, you are both going thru this together.
During my most hurtful times, I had no one.
As posted, time will help in your healing.
I think for me, I needed to heal first before I could confidently work at meeting new people. I had to get over my hangups and be a person that was acceptable to others and not a drunk with an attitude.
In time, maybe your families will snap out of their buzz, mine did, but it took a while.
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Clarence "Gatemouth" Brown
by TMS intom lee park is an open field area on the banks of the mississippi just a hundred yards or so off beale street in memphis.
during "memphis in may" three stages are used, the first being the delta blues stage.
while the younger generation mainly gravitates to the main stage to hear the black crows or whatevers current, my wife and i always stayed at delta blues.
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This dude sounds awesome.
What album would you recommend.
It's a bit of drive to get to see him.....
Kep
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True Peace and Security - books
by Lady Lee ini have a question that has puzzled me for a long time.
i would love to have some explanation because i cannot think of one.. i left the jws in 1985. the year after they released a book called "true peace and security - how can you find it?".
i got a copy of this book several years after it was released so i am unaware of the information about it.
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I left in 1995.
I remember this revised book, and we did have it as book study material.
I never thought to double check it with previous release.
Maybe, by changing the cover and a couple of things here and there, all the newer members would be overjoyed at this later and updated version.
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Fear and guilt
by William Penwell inwent to a borg assembly the other day.
the only thing i remember is them preaching fear and guilt, fear and guilt.
i heard a jw sister say how she pioneered because she felt so guilty.
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Guilt...
WP, you are so right about that.
I pioneered because they kept pounded young childless couples about putting spiritual interests ahead of our own.
For 3 years I kept hearing that from the platform, I felt guilty.
I got slammed for having a bad track record and not reaching out, I felt guilty.
So it seemed the best way to make the many wrongs in my life right was to pioneer.
Yup, they sure know how to bombard you until you succumb to their ways.
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Ashi's Apostasy--Part 4 FBF's Committee
by 25ashitaka25 inso many things happened that i havent mentioned.
my wife almost died of an asthma attack along with an allergic reaction in 1999. in 2000, we saw all of our friends abandon us.
yet, we as a couple were as strong as ever, and continue to be.. in the fall of 2000 my brother-in-law did something remarkable.....he said no to the abuse his parents were bestowing on him.
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Ashi,
What a remarkable experience.
Thank you for posting it so far.
You obviously have a discerning nature to know that FBF had an ulterior motive in meeting up with you.
I'm glad your bro-in-law has been able to live with his paretns on his terms.
I await the next part.
Kep