We all make images in our imagination, and if we think there may be a god, we'd make a mental image of it.
fulltimestudent
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"Do not make for yourself an image of God ..."
by stuckinarut2 ina thought struck me regarding the biblical directive found in a few places including exodus 20:4.
"do not make a likeness of god in the form of any creature that is on the earth or heavens ".
it would seem disrespectful to use "dirty" creatures to describe perfect beings?.
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Aussie Bush Humour - Do not listen if U cling to christian values.
by fulltimestudent inif your not worried about jw moral standards you may like to hear this verse, about the dangers posed by some makes of plastic chairs to manly men.. https://www.facebook.com/groups/818023414953244/permalink/1667787039976873/.
dont forget to turn the sound on!.
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fulltimestudent
If your not worried about JW moral standards you may like to hear this verse, about the dangers posed by some makes of plastic chairs to manly men.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/818023414953244/permalink/1667787039976873/
Dont forget to turn the sound on!
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Is Being a “Manly Man” a Bad Thing?
by minimus inso much is said regarding men , in a negative way.
shaving commercials are now lecturing us as to how bad we really are.
men should be less masculine.
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fulltimestudent
A friend just sent me this yaoi drawing. I'm sure you'll work out the point it attempts to make.
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Is Being a “Manly Man” a Bad Thing?
by minimus inso much is said regarding men , in a negative way.
shaving commercials are now lecturing us as to how bad we really are.
men should be less masculine.
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fulltimestudent
Posted: Quote: "I don't feel guilty for being a male, and I don't feel like less of a male for going to the ballet, opera, or loving to cook."
Nor should you! We can just accept the wide variation in behaviours as normal. I find the extreme reactions to some of these issues interesting. Why are some men and some women extreme in their reactions to these issues.
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Is Being a “Manly Man” a Bad Thing?
by minimus inso much is said regarding men , in a negative way.
shaving commercials are now lecturing us as to how bad we really are.
men should be less masculine.
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fulltimestudent
Quote: FTS - The Bear Grylls programme was nothing but light entertainment. Interesting but anecdotal.
I agree, Cofty, so I find it hard to believe (unless I've missed something) that this 'entertainment' is being offered as evidence of female incompetence. I think you would agree with that.
I do think there is at least some difference between male and female thinking that is likely the result of the processes you have already described. But we should not fall into the trap of thinking that its all standardised and final. It seems those processes produce a range of results with a wide range of what we call femininised/masculinised behaviours. All the people in the TV series we've discussed would have done better if they had had some good bushcraft training.
Quote:The evidence that matters is from neuroscience and evolutionary psychology.
Again I agree. If we do not depend on 'evidence' for our lives and minds, then we may as well go back to believing that yhwh or jesus or buddha or some other deity will tell us how to live and fix up all the hassles for us.
Quote: Babies are not blank slates.
And again. I agree. However, to continue your descriptive terminology, their minds are still like slates. Their minds will be influenced by their life experiences, (Imagine a young boy brutalised by an aggressive father, he grows up to be a similar adult to his father. Is that because of too much testosterone? Or, is it the training he received? Or, is his mind influenced by a sense of injustice and seeking revenge?). Nor, should we forget the role of culture. The culture that prevails in the society in which we live will be transmitted to us in many different ways.
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The Young & not so young taking drugs @ Music Festivals in OZ.
by smiddy3 inmusic festivals are supposed to be entertaining events for young and old alike ,so why is it that so many youths and one`s in their twenty`s & thirty`s are being treated for drug overdoses at these venues ?.
their is so much information about the dangers of using drugs at these events or anywhere else ,why do they do it ?.
they put their own life at risk and traumatize those that try to treat them ?.
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fulltimestudent
If the government opts for the pill-testing option will the pill peddlers start selling "genuine pre-tested products?"
And, if someone has a pill tested and still becomes ill, is there a legal liability attached for someone. If there is, I think the promoters should provide the pill testing service and carry the legal responsibility, though I'm guessing that there may be many less shows then.
Also, what's wrong with letting drug takers die? The country will then be better off and the average IQ will increase.
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Is Being a “Manly Man” a Bad Thing?
by minimus inso much is said regarding men , in a negative way.
shaving commercials are now lecturing us as to how bad we really are.
men should be less masculine.
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fulltimestudent
Also found this discussion of what appears to be the same show already referred to previous comments.
Its published in New Statesman America, and to my surprise it seems that there were three different series, with what may be called different outcomes.
I should point at that the author was a woman ( Anna Leszkiewic) so some comments could have bias, it could be argued.
In the three series referenced there appears to have been different outcomes, with the women coming off best in the last. (Read her thoughts and see what you think!!)
Quote:"The men had been struggling from the start: as soon as their boat hit the shore, Bradford’s 26-year-old Riz broke down sobbing, explaining he was “getting emotional”. The rest of the men waited awkwardly for him to stop crying (offering such useful support as, “he’s properly crying!”, “fuck, man” and “we shouldn’t be moving with that”) before beginning their hunt for a habitable spot. They had to stop several times on their trek for him, spending their first night in the middle of a dense forest."
Compare that viewpoint, with the women:
Quote: "The women, meanwhile, led by army veteran and amputee Hannah, and 57-year-old retired farmer Erika, had found a habitable campsite and food sources, immediately built a fire, and settled in rather comfortably by the end of day one. Hannah, in particular, refused to slow the group down, despite having several issues with her prosthetic leg."
Which brings me back to the point I made earlier about cultural influences. All these people were from the same general cultural group, but with different experiences in life (if you like, with different sub-cultural influences.
The young male who cries on the first day has a different sub-cultural experience to the ex-army, one legged woman and the woman ex-farmer who seem to have become leaders for the female group.
So now I'm wondering, did Bear Grylls select people who may illustrate his arguments, or were they selected randomly? What do you think? If it had been a genuine scientific experiment the participants would have had to be selected randomly to prevent the selectors possible bias influencing the outcom
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Is Being a “Manly Man” a Bad Thing?
by minimus inso much is said regarding men , in a negative way.
shaving commercials are now lecturing us as to how bad we really are.
men should be less masculine.
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fulltimestudent
It would be interesting to know the background of all the men in the group. Did they all participate and contribute equally? Did some become leaders, driving the activities that would have led to their survival in a real life context?
And, to what extant was culture an influence?
I.m not disagreeing with the conclusions of this study, just thinking aloud.
It is interesting to compare that experiment with some real life situations, for example the seamen in the well-known Mutiny of the Bounty. There seem to be somewhat similar similar outcomes among the crews of Dutch ships wrecked on the W.A. Coast.
Some of the difficulties experienced have been dramatised (sort of) in the fictional, "Lord of the Flies. This novel/film used a group of boys to make its point. Which therefore makes a point of view that the novelist chose. Do we too, tend to have a P.O.V. and then look for evidence to support our P.O.V.
Similarly, with the women. Again. I think it's interesting to attempt to analyse their experience, first by their backgrounds and secondly by the cultural influences in their lives.
I have not had time to read all comments, so I apologise if what seems to be the show that Cofty referred to has already been referenced already.
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Is Being a “Manly Man” a Bad Thing?
by minimus inso much is said regarding men , in a negative way.
shaving commercials are now lecturing us as to how bad we really are.
men should be less masculine.
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fulltimestudent
A previous poster posited the view that if we were in a situation where we were being attacked by terrorists we may be looking for some 'manly males' to defend us.
Throughout history there are many examples of women fighting in as deadly fashion as men. For example, in Greek mythology, the Amazons (Greek: Ἀμαζόνες, Amazónes, singular Ἀμαζών, Amazōn) were a tribe of women warriors related to Scythians and Sarmatians.
They had a reputation for being brutal and aggressive, and their main concern in life was war.
Another example! It was the custom among the Khitan, (or Qidan as they are known in Chinese, who were a nomadic people originating in eastern Inner Mongolia), for men and their wives to ride into battle together.
In S.E. Asia women were also warriors. * https://www.crcpress.com/Women-Warriors-in-Southeast-Asia/Rettig-Lanzona/p/book/9781138829350 )
And, in many modern nations, women serve in the armed forces
For some Asian States today see: https://thediplomat.com/2013/03/women-warriors-break-down-barriers-across-asia/2/
So why make our cultural norms the only correct cultural view and totally ignore the myriad other cultural norms that can be seen in history.
PS. When I was young and first associating with the JWs, a friend has a bible study with a man, whose wife would bash him with a hammer if he went to meetings.
That (written with a smile) is the sort of person I want near me if I'm attacked by terrorists.
Our western cultural concept of women as weak and defenceless is a distorted view that is not supported by history.
If you want to girls - go get the terrorists!!!!
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fulltimestudent
Don't always go to National day celebrations, but I did last night. Went to the ABC (owned by the Australian government) organised Australia day concert held at Circular quay.
Better than any I've been to in the past, that were organised by commercial TV networks.
Great to see that it was quite inclusive, with some Indigenous people features along with many migrants telling their stories. And interesting to hear the National Anthem sung in an Aboriginal language.
Fireworks were quite impressive also: