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An Old Argument.... does it hold water?
by AK - Jeff inestimates range from 4 million to 15 million children die from starvation each year on this planet.
that's between 500 and 1700 children a day, depending on what numbers you accept.
still, no matter which numbers you use, doesn't this make you arrive at one of the following conclusions?.
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The Watchtower is NOT a false prophet
by The Quiet One inregarding what some have said here about the wt being a false prophet.. i would like to make my point regarding the wt not being a false prophet... so please, if you can be patient enough to read this, at least try to understand what i am getting at.. a false prophet is one who, according to deuteronomy, makes a false prediction of the future and claims that the prediction came from god, or in other words claiming that 'god has said he will do a certain thing at a certain time' etc.. for example, hypothetically speaking, if someone had claimed: "god will bring about the end of the world in 2010", they would have been proven to be a false prophet, obviously.
but, as an example, imagine a man who claimed the position of a prophet of god, (as moses did, because although he was not the type of prophet that predicted the future.. he was still a prophet or spokesman for god) and that he had publicised worldwide, according to his interpretation of a (for example) prophecy found in the book of isaiah, that the world would end in 2010.. and he had also stated that he was not saying that god will end the world in that year.. but only that there was biblical evidence that god might do so.
that would clearly have been a mistake.
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Suicide - How many do you know within the JWs
by Lady Lee inthw wts likes to play games with their statistics.
one interesting but truly tragic is the number of jwhovah's witnesses who commit suicie.. now i suspect that if a person commits suicide shortly before or after they are disfellowshipped then the elders would say that person wasn't a witness or that they had done something so terrible that they were too guilty to admit it and by their action of committing suicide they pretty much declared they were no longer a jw.. yup fancy talk to make sure any crap didn't fall on them.. so my question.. do you know of cases like this?
if so then can you answer a few more questions.. had this person been dfed or in real danger of being dfed or whatever the equivalent is if they were never baptized?.
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"Something from Nothing" (Discussion with Richard Dawkins and Lawrence Krauss)
by leavingwt intaped live on feb 4, 2012.
(2 hours).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh9uvnrarf8.
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UK Congregations of Jehovah's Witnesses
by JWB inuk congregations of jehovah's witnesses[a].
aberaeron.
aberdare.
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Recognizing Christ's leadership involves submission to his "brothers." 5/15/2011 WT
by miseryloveselders ini hesitated to do this thread as i thought it was the same article flipper did, but its not the same article.
here's flip's thread for those who missed it.
it's a must read.. http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/207377/1/april-15th-wt-wt-society-says-obeying-us-is-same-as-obeying-god.
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According to Prince: It is fun being in Islamic Countries!!!
by JustHuman14 inhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/jun/23/prince-islamic-countries-fun.
i was a loving tyrant' ... prince.
in an exclusive interview with the guardian's film&music, prince said: "it's fun being in islamic countries, to know there's only one religion.
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I've lurked a long time: JW's produce some of the most paranoid humans
by Unlearn ini'll keep this brief for now.. long time lurker (4 years or so).. born-in, elder, used on district level (last talk i gave before i left was the baptisimal talk), and lots of hard time put in...before i finally made the move to split.
it's a long stoy, much like many of yours...but with it's own little interesting twists.
more details in the future, perhaps.. as i said, ive lurked here for a while.. its funny: for a long time i'd only come on late at night.
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Cults - Steven Hassan's BITE model.
by ithinkisee incombatting cult mind control : the #1 best-selling guide to protection, rescue, and recovery from destructive cults.
by steven hassan.
isbn: 0892813113
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Governing Body Autographs Gift Bibles For Cuban Authorities
by PublishingCult in"the one sacred book that thus from first to last declares its author to be jehovah god is the holy bible.
" (w60 10/1 p. 584 par.
5 the holy biblethe book by jehovahs witnesses).