Topics Started by Alfred
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Two men in need of blood fractions...
by Alfred inhypothetical situation.... you're the doctor in charge of the icu when two ambulances arrive (at the same time), each one with a patient requiring the same amount of "x blood fraction" for the same reasons (including high risk of death)... one of the patients is a well-known blood donor and the other is a jw who is willing to accept the "x blood fraction".... however, you barely have enough "x blood fraction" for one of the patients (not both)... who do you give it to?.
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An elder dropped by 2 weeks ago with the two 607 rags (OCT & NOV WT)...
by Alfred in...and a big smile on his face... as if to say "i can finally shut you up".... rewinding a bit.... about 18 months ago, i read "gentile times reconsidered" and discovered this doctrine had more holes than swiss cheese.
but it didn't end there, i read several studies in the scriptures, the even tide by john aquila brown (not all of it) and then proceeded to write multiple letters to brooklyn, all of which were responded to by dodging simple questions such as: "if the 70 years ended in 537 and jeremiah says there would be 70 years of servitude, which babyonian king were the jews serving between 539 and 537?".
i showed all three of the society's responses to an elder in my congo (even though he received copies of these himself) and he could see that they were "canned" responses that in no way anwered my queries.
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The word "Armageddon" has been fading away from WT publications
by Alfred in1960s 1,095 times.
1970s 152 times(drastic drop after 1975).
1980s 438 times.
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WT: Only JWs and idiots will survive Armageddon...
by Alfred insince there is compelling and overwhelming evidence that jehovah is the true and living god, creator and supreme sovereign of the universe, the plea of ignorance cannot be admitted in its full latitude except for idiots.
the atheists cannot plead ignorance.
the agnostics cannot plead ignorance.
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Both the October 1 & November 1 Watchtowers avoid discussing the 2,520 years!!!
by Alfred indid anyone else notice this?.
the "when was jerusalem destroyed?
" articles in the october 2011 and november 2011 public edition watchtowers were supposed to explain why it was so important to know when jerusalem was destroyed... but none of the two articles makes any mention about how the wt arrived at the 2,520 year calculation (to get to 1914)... did they think no one would notice???
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What really ended the book study in private homes?
by Alfred init's been over 3 years since the book study in private homes was discontinued and some jws are still scratching their heads over it.
although a letter was read to all congregations explaining that "book study night" would now be "family worship night", there was still much speculation among jws as to the real reason behind this decision (the great tribulation was about to start, jehovah was simplifying the lives of jws, to lessen the burden of poor jws who had no money for gas, etc.)...
but as we all know, decisions like these from the gb invariably have some ulterior motive behind it... and discussion boards such as this one usually finds a way to dig up the truth for all to see... but after reading several threads on this subject, i'm really not sure we've uncovered all the facts yet.... so i have to ask... what do you believe really ended the book study in private homes?
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How would you assess the intelligence level of the individual GB members?
by Alfred ini know there's really no way to tell who has the highest or lowest iq of those on the current governing body or even who exhibits more thinking ability or more knowledge of wt bs.
but many of you have heard talks from these clowns at district assemblies throughout the us and abroad over the years... others here have seen the 2010 dvd "faith in action" or have seen youtube videos of gb members dispensing meat in due season... so i'm curious to know what your personal assessmenment is of the 7 stooges currently living in brooklyn heights.... here's my personal assessment... (from dumbest to least dumb).
guy pierce (completely clueless)anthony morrisgerrit loschstephen lettsam herdgeoffrey jacksondavid splane (knows enough wt bs to hold his own)again, i know this is a subjective assessment, but i would really like to know your opinion on who you believe has been dumbed down the most by the wt and who has been dumbed down the least.... thanks!.
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Funny story by an ex-missionary/ ex CO mentioned in COC
by Alfred inso a few months ago, i had dinner with an ex-missionary/ex-co (mentioned in coc and pentons apocalypse delayed) and he had some really interesting and funny anecdotes about his time in brooklyn bethel and spain.
(i will ask him permission to reveal his name at a later time) but i just wanted to share one particular story that really made me laugh as it shows how ridiculous elders can behave after theyve been thoroughly dumbed down by the wt leadership.
he explained that while he was serving in spain, a trivial matter came up in one of his visits to a congo in barcelona sometime in the late 70s.
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Does the congo with the thickest envelope get all the circuit assembly talks?
by Alfred inok... i might be speculating here but i just have this sudden need to get this purged from my system once and for all.... it always seemed to me that the congo that handed over the thickest envelope to the co at the end of his visit got all the circuit assembly parts... this is just my personal observation from having been in 4 different districts for over 3 decades.. of course, i could be completely wrong about this but i rarely noticed elders from the poorer congos in the district giving talks at any assembly i've ever attended, while the elders from the more affluent congos in the district seemed to get all the talks, simposiums, dramas, everything.... in fact, about the only thing the "less fortunate" elders were used for at assemblies were for "interviews" (during an affluent elder's talk) where they would briefly explain how they gave up higher education, higher paying jobs, etc.
to serve jehovah full time because jehovah always provides, etc.
just to make the "materialistic" young couples in attendance feel guilty and sign up for aux pionsneering, reach out, etc.. meanwhile, several affluent and well-known business owners in the district got all the front-and-center 15-min discourses... i always thought: "why are they up there giving these talks, instead of the more humble brothers in the district who are all but running themselves into the ground in field circus 6 days a week while the affluent elders barely get in 10 hours a week visiting not-at-homes?.
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Heavenly Gates Closed in 1935 Re-opened in 2007
by Alfred insince 1935, the watchtower had been categorically teaching (for over 6 decades) that the heavenly calling of the 144,000 anointed christians had ceased in 1935. this teaching was especially significant to older jws (especially those who spent much of their lives serving the watchtower as pioneers, elders, missionaries, bethelites, etc.
) because many of these would eventually turn their attention to the aging governing body members and feel a sense of relief knowing that the end was drawing ever so near.
in other words, as more governing body members (who were born before 1935) passed away, the closer they would get to their long-awaited reward of surviving armageddon and living on paradise earth where they would finally hug grass-eating lions near a waterfall while marveling at snow-peaked mountains in the distance.