They probably paid some historians a big load of money to "quote" them in the next WT mag...: "oh yeah, us historians have always felt that 70 years of servitude equals 70 years of desolation" ... Cha-ching ... The WT wins and the historians wins. Ok, maybe I'm running ahead of the FDS again... Let's just wait for the article and see what they came up with this time...
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11Oct public Wt article about 587/607
by dontplaceliterature inhas anyone read this article?
i am not familiar enough with the topic to debunk it.
they basically accuse the historical record of being unreliable.. i'm surprised it was even discussed.
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Do JW Organization Mistakes Matter?
by InterestedOne inafter reading what concerned jw has to say, i gather that for him, if the jw organization is currently making any mistakes, those mistakes do not matter and are not worth naming, not even one.
i am completely baffled by this and would like to understand why a person would take this position.
concerned jw, can you please explain why you take this position?
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Alfred
The thing many JWs fail to recognize is that most of these so-called "mistakes" are really NOT mistakes at all... These are intentionally engineered and manufactured doctrines that are part of their ongoing marketing strategy which cleverly creates a perpetual "need" where other religions fall short and simply creates a temporary "want". It's simply a means of corporate survival... ...If you don't have an iPhone, well, you don't have an iPhone... If you're not a baptized and active JW, well, you're not going to paradise... And their permission to make these so-called mistakes is in Pro 4:18 while their "hook" remains constant... "We're the only ones who preach worldwide, don't celebrate holidays or believe in that ridiculous Trinity doctrine. So the FDS is directed by God's spirit and all other religions will perish". But again, the distinction has to made between mistakes and made-up doctrine. Just my 2...
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MANY PBS STATIONS WON'T SHOW KNOCKING !
by DannyHaszard insome pbs stations won't show knocking .
even though knocking is scheduled for a national pbs broadcast on may .
2007, as many as one-quarter of local pbs stations will not show .
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Thanks Mad... I came across some old note books clearing out my desk the other day and noticed a note to myself about this documentary... (Don't remember why a wrote the note)... Decided to search here and found this thread.
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MANY PBS STATIONS WON'T SHOW KNOCKING !
by DannyHaszard insome pbs stations won't show knocking .
even though knocking is scheduled for a national pbs broadcast on may .
2007, as many as one-quarter of local pbs stations will not show .
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Alfred
Does anyone know who financed this documentary?
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Survey - Are DF'ed ones allowed to be around for the prayers at the meetings where you live?
by StandFirm inand please state the general area you live in, if you could.
thank you..
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Alfred
AGuest... I'm guessing that Standfirm will wait for some more replies to his question before posting a summary of this thread on another site (Topix I think)... Maybe you'll find what's behind this on that web site...
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Feeling a bit alienated
by factfinder ini notice mostly everyone at jwn was a "born-in".
i actually chose to become a witness.
i was born and raised jewish but by the time i was 15 i had lost interest in judaism and stopped practicing it.
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Alfred
Concerned JW... One question... Can you name one "mistake" or one "false teaching" that any of the writers of the Bible put on paper? No, you cannot.
Don't try to compare the WTBTS with people who made errors in the Bible... you need to compare apples with apples... but your comparing apples with poison ivy...
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What is the ULTIMATE goal of the Watchtower Society?
by MrDarkKnight inin a number of different threads comments have been made about the motives of the gb and the wtbts.
it made me think, what is their ultimate goal?
what is their end game?.
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Alfred
What Sab said... Also, I'm still trying to figure how being nice equates to being self-righteous...
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Thinking about loosing my friends ....
by Dudu ini think the harddest part of all this process of fading is losing friends .... ive been jw all my life and my all my close friends are jw ... im sad.
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Alfred
What Billy said...
we all know that there are some really bad people in "the world"... but there are also millions of genuinely friendly people who are honest, law-abiding and truthful... a lot more than 7 million, that's for sure...
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What is the ULTIMATE goal of the Watchtower Society?
by MrDarkKnight inin a number of different threads comments have been made about the motives of the gb and the wtbts.
it made me think, what is their ultimate goal?
what is their end game?.
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Alfred
Billy... I believe it...
Early last year, Anthony Morris visited our district and made a ridiculous comment about Field Circus... Basically, he asked the audience of about 6,000 to raise their hand if they enjoy getting up early saturday morning to go to FS. i'd say about 10% or less raised their hand... his response to that was: "wow, that's a lot more than I expected... I (Anthony Morris) certainly don't enjoy getting up early and then have to face the kind of treatment we usually get in FS, but we all have to do it if we want Jehovah's approval" (or words to that effect)... It just left everyone looking at each other and thinking WTF...
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Still Amazed to Have Escaped
by leavingwt ini escaped the wt more than three years ago.
yet, even today, i'm still amazed, surprised and thankful that i got out.
it's easy for me to imagine having never getting the information i needed to make a clean break.
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LeavingWT... I hear you man... On a scale of 1 to 10, my stress level dropped from about 7 to 2 after reading Crisis of Conscience and several other books... My wife took about 4 months or so to convince, but once she woke up, her stress level dropped from about 9 to 1... We were always trying so hard to meet our "theocratic" goals but always felt that we should be doing more if we wanted to be accepted by Jehovah... Thank God we're free!!! We're both much happier now than ever...