Posts by MeanMrMustard

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Homosexuality, the GB and the Bible

by Oubliette in

the recent topics addressing the shamefully bigoted talk by jw gb member, anthony morris, on the subject of homosexuality got me thinking.

what the heck is up with the gb's obsession with this subject?.

as far as i can determine, jesus never said a single thing in reference to homosexuality.

MeanMrMustard

@Oubliette:

Why do the GB give such disproportionate attention to this subject?

I dont' think this is so strange. Gay marriage is in the news now. It makes sense the GB would be preparing more material on it.

As far as I can determine, Jesus never said a single thing in reference to homosexuality. My recollection is that there are only half a dozen scriptures in the entire bible on the subject and they are either in the OT or written by Paul. Either way, six or seven verses about homosexuality out of over 30,000 verses on a wide range of other subjects gives us pause to consider:

I am not sure I understand this line of reasoning. Should Chirstians disregard the words of Paul? If so, what is to prevent them from disregarding Paul completely? Should the Bible be reduced to the gospel books? What of biblical inerrancy?

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Who Made The Code?

by Perry in

a few weeks ago, discoveries were made that show that there is another dna code language that rides on top of the already incredibly complex 4-letter code previously discovered.

this newly discovered code apparently regulates how genes work.

as i noted in a previous thread, the amount of data storage available in the dna storage system just the size of a pin-head would filll a stack of books stacked from your driveway to the moon .... 500 times!

MeanMrMustard

@Perry:

Argumentum ad populum

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JW.org to be banned in Russia

by redvip2000 in

my facebook was "lit up" today with all the out cries about the possibility of the organization's website being banned in russia.. as many of you recall this past august a court in russia banned the website and sought to make accessing the website in russia illegal.

well tomorrow the appeal by the org will be heard in court.

if the appeal is denied, jw.org will no longer be available in that part of the world, causing endless lamentations and cries of "persecution", only to bolster the idea that they are truly hated by the world because they are true christians.

MeanMrMustard

Just curious, if they ban jw.org, what happens if the WT simply registers a new domain? Perhaps, HaHaHaSuckersThisDomainIsNotBaned.com ... I am pretty sure it is open....

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Can being gay live in harmony with being a christian?

by digderidoo in

jw
friends

i have looked at the thread about gay marriages in california and thought about asking this question there, but instead of hi-jacking that one i thought i would ask it here.

there seems to be quite a few gay people on this site and i wonder how many class themselves as christian?

if so, can being gay live in harmony with being a christian?.

MeanMrMustard

@digderidoo:

I think I am with you on this one. I consider myself an athiest. I have no problem with someone being gay, and no agenda. I have a gay cousin (he is atheist).

But I have often scratched my head at those that claim to be Christian and gay at the same time. It just seems like a square circle to me. Unless, of course, you redefine Christianity - unless you remove most of the New Testiment from your theology. That is, as you noted, if you are going to condemn Paul for what is written in 1 Corinthians, and reject him on the grounds that he is out of touch with "the times", then you might as well remove him completely. You can't have it both ways, as you say. Or at least you end up giving up the idea of Biblical inspiration and inerrancy.

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Who Made The Code?

by Perry in

a few weeks ago, discoveries were made that show that there is another dna code language that rides on top of the already incredibly complex 4-letter code previously discovered.

this newly discovered code apparently regulates how genes work.

as i noted in a previous thread, the amount of data storage available in the dna storage system just the size of a pin-head would filll a stack of books stacked from your driveway to the moon .... 500 times!

MeanMrMustard

@Perry:

Let me try something... when you say this:

" DNA information requires a complex decoding machine, the ribosome, but the instructions to build ribosomes are on the DNA - How Did That Just Happen?"

What do you mean by "How did that just happen"? Surely you don't mean "suddenly" - after all, everyone here has been emphasizing the time element involved with evolution. Do you mean "randomly"? By "luck"? "Chance"?

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Who Made The Code?

by Perry in

a few weeks ago, discoveries were made that show that there is another dna code language that rides on top of the already incredibly complex 4-letter code previously discovered.

this newly discovered code apparently regulates how genes work.

as i noted in a previous thread, the amount of data storage available in the dna storage system just the size of a pin-head would filll a stack of books stacked from your driveway to the moon .... 500 times!

MeanMrMustard

@Apognophos,

You are very patient.

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Who Made The Code?

by Perry in

a few weeks ago, discoveries were made that show that there is another dna code language that rides on top of the already incredibly complex 4-letter code previously discovered.

this newly discovered code apparently regulates how genes work.

as i noted in a previous thread, the amount of data storage available in the dna storage system just the size of a pin-head would filll a stack of books stacked from your driveway to the moon .... 500 times!

MeanMrMustard

Perry,

Evolution is not random. It is an algorithm. The algorithm itself is surpisingly simple, and amazingly effective. It can be modeled quite easily:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp9kzoAxsA4

As far as "irreducibly complex" - don't overlook the fact that intermetiate steps can be introduced to help an "irreducibly complex" machine come about. The talkorigins.org archive has a good example. This is an irreducibly complex bridge. Take one piece away and the function fails. It doens't matter what piece you take away, the bridge will fail:

And here are the steps:

And finally:

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Sign this petition - Investigation On Jehovahs Witnesses Religious Policy That Violates Human Rights and Abuses Religious Freedom

by TJ Curioso in

launch an investigation on jehovahs witnesses religious policy that violates human rights and abuses religious freedom.

link.

MeanMrMustard

"Most of us are here b/c we are not going to shut up and go away. Did YOU go away and shut up? NO you started the biggest Xjws board on the net. Maybe you have forgotten what we all came here for?"

Starting a forum is very very very INCREDIBLY different than trying to change the situation by law. You don't have to leave the WT "alone" and "just SHUT UP AND GO AWAY"; however, trying to create a petition to get some sort of legal action 1) won't work, and 2) if it did, would have incredibly bad side-effects.

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Sign this petition - Investigation On Jehovahs Witnesses Religious Policy That Violates Human Rights and Abuses Religious Freedom

by TJ Curioso in

launch an investigation on jehovahs witnesses religious policy that violates human rights and abuses religious freedom.

link.

MeanMrMustard

" It's a real irony that they're violating human rights by their cruel policies while they're making petitions to the K-Gov. for them to be treated better in human rights."

What "human right" are they violating? Can you define it?

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Comprehensive NWT Comparison Project (calling all technically skilled members)

by Apognophos in

is anyone aware if this project is already being done by someone?

if not, perhaps we can brainstorm how to go about this, now that the pdf for the revised nwt is out.

a couple initial impressions:.

MeanMrMustard

The case of the missing A.T. Johnson could indeed be due to a disfellowshipping; I know that photos have been altered or replaced when they contain people that get DFed (like a kid who was used because he was considered a good example of a young Witness, who then turned out not to be :-). It could also be something as mundane as needing to keep the index to a certain number of pages and thinking, "No one is going to want to look up this Johnson guy from 1989".

I think he was DFed... :) There were two other guys mentioned in the articles. Their index entry wasn't removed between 2011 and 12.

BTW, how is your big project going? :)

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