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  Revelation book

  by Gorb in

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  2. friends

  do you remember the jw.org book of revelation and how many times we had to study it?

  in retrospect, all those hours turned out to be for nothing, the explanation of the prophecies is now completely outdated..

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  Ding

  It's ridiculous when they try to make Revelation fit their (whitewashed) history.

  Cedar Point, Ohio, anyone?
  
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  Awakening thoughts

  by aqwsed12345 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a "waking up", but still a member, jehovah's witness acquaintance of mine from eastern europe wrote the following lines:.

  "i count among the main sins of the watchtower society:.

  1. concealment.

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  Ding

  The first couple of weeks when I was studying with JWs, they let me ask questions.

  They put most of them off with the promise that they would be answered later in the "Bible study."

  Within a month, I wasn't asking any questions.

  I was just giving the Watchtower's answers to the Watchtower's questions.

  How did I not realize that was brainwashing?
  
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  Awakening thoughts

  by aqwsed12345 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a "waking up", but still a member, jehovah's witness acquaintance of mine from eastern europe wrote the following lines:.

  "i count among the main sins of the watchtower society:.

  1. concealment.

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  Ding

  "Why is it forbidden nowadays to question certain dogmas? Because they are the mature and anointed teachers, and I am the ignorant riffraff who would get lost without adequate help?"

  I think that about covers their attitude.

  But it's nothing new.

  Russell said if you just read his writings and not the Bible you'd be fine, but if you just read the Bible without his publications, within 2 years you'd go into darkness.
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  What do the Org. And the Catholic Church have in Common?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "the governing body of jehovah’s witnesses are like the pope is to the catholic church.

  they too claim to be god’s mouthpiece or the voice of jesus.

  they also demand unquestioning obedience for their members salvation.

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  Ding

  I wonder what percentages of JWs/Catholics actually believe all the things their organization teaches and what percentage are in it for other reasons.

  Impossible to know for sure, of course.
  
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  JWs don't consider older WT as revelant

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am relating this happening.

  i shared some thoughts from the 1989 question from readers concerning christ being mediator between god and man ( the wt spinning that he isn't ) and also the paragraph in that same article that plainly says: clearly, then the new covenant is not a loose arrangement open to all mankind.

  it is a carefully arranged legal provision involving god and anointed christians.

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  Ding

  How do they know apostates aren't slipping lies into the publications today?

  And isn't there a WT somewhere that says we can trust what the Watchtower says because the GB checks everything before it's published?

  Or did apostates slip that in too?
  
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  Advice to reduce hours earn less and spend more time on the ministry

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the advice to reduce work and earn less to spend more time preaching has not aged well.. the cost of living crisis means many have more going out on necessities than they have coming in.. so many asked their employer to reduce their hours and refused promotion only to see their colleagues go up the ladder when they stayed lowly position with rubbish jobs thinking the end will be here soon.

  next week midweek meeting is all about preparing for an economic crisis.. they say have a go bag and new advice for all jws to store food and water at home and grow a vegetable garden, i kid you not.

  this is the new direction..

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  Ding

  That part of the WT message hasn't changed.

  It's always, "More, more, MORE!"
  
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  Ecclesiastes 9:5 -"the dead know nothing at all"

  by aqwsed12345 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the narrator of the book of ecclesiastes had very little knowledge of many things that jesus and his apostles later preached.

  the author does not make statements, but only wonders (thinks, observes, often raises questions, and leaves them open).

  he looked at the world based on the law of moses and found nothing but vanity, as the earthly reward promised in the law did not always accompany good deeds and earthly punishment for evil deeds.

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  If you read the context of Ecclesiastes 9:5 and accept it as divine revelation (rather than as the pessimistic view of the writer who thinks this life is all there is), you'd have to conclude that the dead have no further reward and that all memory of them is forgotten.

  So much for the resurrection and the paradise earth...
  
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  Mistakes made by GB.

  by Hellothere in

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  "the governing body is neither inspired nor infallible.

  therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction".

  i know this subject been talked about before.

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  It's kind of like saying, "I have sinned" but never admitting to anything specific.
  
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  When Did the Watchtower Introduce the "Generation of 1914" Teaching?

  by Ding in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm looking for help to track down the development of the "generation" doctrine, starting with when the wt first specifically tied the end to the generation of 1914.. russell taught that 1914 would be the end of this system of things.

  when that failed, rutherford started touting 1925.. no need to talk about generations then; it was just specific dates.. when did they first tie the end in to a "generation of 1914" time frame?.

  i also know that they changed the meaning of generation several times.. first, a person had to have been at least 15 in order to have seen the events of 1914 with understanding of what was happening.. i think they lowered that to 10 and then finally it was anyone who was alive in 1914.. of course, now the generation overlaps.. does anyone know someone where all these wt teachings are set out chronologically (preferably with citations to the literature)?.

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  Thanks!
  
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  Scriptures That Don’t Fit WT Theology

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  here’s a couple good ones: a. jesus said, “come to me and i will give you rest”.. why did jesus command us to go to him and not jehovah?.

  why does the bible say that the name of jesus is above every name?

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  Ding

  In Watchtowerthink, come to Jesus = come to the faithful and discreet slave organization.