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  Do You Know Of Anyone That Has Seen A Therapist Because Of Being A Witness?

  by minimus in

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  i really don’t know of many people who got into therapy because of their jw dealings but i would think that if someone remains depressed or severely affected by their past witness life, it’s not a bad idea to speak to someone to get you on the right path.

  i think this site has been very therapeutic for many over the years..

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  I think the real challenge would be to find a therapist that understands how cults operate and how they affect a person's mind, will, and emotions.
  
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  Has anyone still in or otherwise heard anything about JWs think we only have 12 months before Armageddon?

  by blablabluh in

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  i’ve noticed a change in family attitude recently, like there is just something extra on their mind.

  i even had to call my brother to check if he was dying and too scared to tell me.

  anyway, i saw a video last night my saying jws think we only have 12 months left before armageddon so thought maybe this is the reason for changes attitude.

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  When Armageddon doesn't come within 12 months, they will immediately forget that they thought it would.
  
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  Will Jehovah’s Witnesses Go Back To Normal Activities?

  by minimus in

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  most every state has a plan to get back to normalcy.

  many countries also are ready to get their citizens on the road to recovery.. where does this leave the witnesses?

  will they ever go back to house to house ministry?

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  Aren't they just rehashing Fred Franz as modified by the overlapping generation and the GB = FDS teachings?
  
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  List of Critical WTS Teachings

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  2. bible

  i sent a list of statements about current wts teachings to a friend who is being carefully recruited by a seasoned witness.. hi em..... just a quick summary of what all “good” jehovah's witnesses believe...even though some of these things witnesses are not always willing to be transparent about.

  this is your crash course.

  i have quotations for every item listed if you want or need them.. witnesses believes that:.

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  If they had laid that out for me in my living room on their first visit the way you have done it here, my total "study" with them would have lasted less than 15 minutes.
  
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  J Dublethink

  by LoveUniHateExams in

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  i'm just thinking of examples of jw doublethink.. here's one - jws will tell a bible study or unbaptised publisher that there is no hierarchy within the org.

  they typically remark on christendom's hierarchy but then say 'we are all brothers'.

  but as a person gets further into the cult, jws will constantly stress the need to obey the governing body.. jw hierarchy .

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  They really believe they are not following men.

  In reality, the whole JW religion is about following a small group of men without question.
  
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  Remember how it felt before you woke up. Living forever in a Righteous World.

  by pistolpete in

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  i woke up early in life.

  it’s not because i was smarter than my brothers and sisters.

  in fact, reflecting back, i actually don’t know why i didn’t embrace the watchtower teachings?

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  The thought of a paradise earth can be comforting, but how many JWs are secretly fearful (or even convinced) that they won't be deemed worthy enough to be there?

  How many JWs are terrified whenever they hear distant thunder for fear that it's the beginning of Armageddon and that they will be among those who are destroyed?

  No matter how much a JW tries to be as loyal to Jehovah as Jesus was, they know they don't measure up.
  
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  1969 "fact": You will never grow old in this present system of things

  by Ding in

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  awake!

  "if you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things.

  because all the evidence in fulfillment of bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years... therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers.

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  I bumped this thread to the top because few JWs today remember that the WT taught this as truth. A person who was 16 when it was published would be 68 today.
  

  Yet JWs today are still relying on the prophetic pronouncements of the self-proclaimed "faithful and discreet slave" for their "spiritual food at the proper time."
  
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  Do you still talk to the dubs?

  by Iamallcool in

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  just wondering!

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  They won't talk to me.
  
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  Development of a False Prophecy

  by Ding in

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  based on wt history of repeated false prophecies, here is the way these things seem to develop:.

  1. someone connects unrelated bible verses and comes up with a date for the end.. 2. this date is "confirmed" by outside information, such as pyramid measurements.. 3. they share this "hidden knowledge" with others.. 4. they develop a following of people who are excited to be the only ones on earth who understand "the deep things of god.".

  5. they promote the date.. 6. people laugh them to scorn.. 7. the faithful cry "persecution" and wait expectantly.. 8. as the date approaches, they get more and more excited.. 9. when the date is imminent, leaders get worried and start to hedge their bets through cautionary language.. 10. when the date comes and goes, they come up with some explanation (adam-eve creation gap, no year 0, etc.

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  Based on WT history of repeated false prophecies, here is the way these things seem to develop:

  1. Someone connects unrelated Bible verses and comes up with a date for the end.

  2. This date is "confirmed" by outside information, such as pyramid measurements.

  3. They share this "hidden knowledge" with others.

  4. They develop a following of people who are excited to be the only ones on earth who understand "the deep things of God."

  5. They promote the date.

  6. People laugh them to scorn.

  7. The faithful cry "persecution" and wait expectantly.

  8. As the date approaches, they get more and more excited.

  9. When the date is imminent, leaders get worried and start to hedge their bets through cautionary language.

  10. When the date comes and goes, they come up with some explanation (Adam-Eve creation gap, no year 0, etc.) and set a new date in the near future.

  11. When the later date goes by, they announce that they are done with setting dates.

  12. After several years go by, they lose followers are forced to decide whether to disband or start over.

  13. They set a new date and attract new followers who aren't aware of their previous failures.

  14. The cycle repeats.
  
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  Transparency Questions

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  here are some questions to ask witnesses.

  how would you alter or improve or add to them?.

  transparency questions.

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