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  Where were you three years ago today?

  by hemp lover in

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  i was thinking last night that 9/11/01, for this generation, is somewhat akin to 11/22/63 (jfk's assassination) for previous generations.

  i remember listening to the adults' stories when i was a child of where they were and what they were doing when jfk was assassinated.. so where were you on 9/11/01?

  how has that day affected your life?.

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  I was in a campground about two hundred miles away from my children. We were trying to relocate because of the economic conditions.
  
  I woke up violently ill right around the time the first plane hit. I was drifting in and out of a fitful sleep. Around the time the second plane hit, someone in the campground turned their radio up full blast so we would all know what was going on.
  
  I thought of my children immediately, wishing I could be with them. But I was just too sick to travel, and there was conjecture about whether or not a major bridge about fifty miles away that I had to cross to get home was closed (it turned out it was not).
  
  My children were at our home, which was located not too far from an airbase which has one of the longest runways in the north (it's an emergency landing base for the space shuttles). Because of it's runway, it's viewed as a prime target in the case of invasion.
  
  I was terrified for my kids! I kept have the recurring thought of what if something happens to them or us, and I don't get to tell them how much I love them before we die.Luckily, I was able to reach them by phone later that evening when I was well enough to stand.
  
  I drove home the next day, and listened to radio all the way home.I found myself in tears more than once,as the uncertainty was torturous.When I got home,I watched the media footage over and over again. My daughter and I just sat there silently, watching this footage.
  
  Then I cried for all of the victims and their families.I don't think I stopped for about three days.
  
  Incidentally, I was still JW then. The idea of Armageddon didn't even occur to me, and I was irritated with the "field service" experiences that were reported shortly after the attack (though I can't really pinpoint why-it just angered me to hear them talk about them at the meetings). Six months later, I enrolled in college. Instead of quitting college when they started the pressure on me about going, I quit the meetings.
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  TURN ON CNN: PLANE HIT WORLD TRADE CTR BLDG!!!

  by MadApostate in

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  I'm shedding tears in rememberance of those who died today three years ago.
  
  And tears for all in the world who have died from senseless acts of violence:(
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  Jephthah's daughter

  by Cicatrix in

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  so the wts taught us all that jephthah sacrificed his daughter to jehovah's service at the temple.

  well, that's not what i found out today.

  i was reading a site on archeology, and they mentioned that jephthah had offered up his daughter as a burnt offering, and that this was sometimes practiced by the canaanites.the article said that some of the israelites had initially settled peacefully amongst the canannites about two hundred years before joshua conquered jericho, and that this is an example of how they adopted some of the canaanite practices.

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  "if the whole Hebrew Bible (OT) is the result of a writing/editing/rewriting process which began around the 6th century BC, there really are no older books left. "
  
  Good point. Does the book you mentioned say much about the editing process it underwent? I plan to get a copy as soon as I get moved and settled in.
  
  What do you think about books that were written around the same time that were left out of the Bible cannon?
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  America's Favorite Mormon has finally lost!

  by TresHappy in

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  after 74 wins and 2.5 million, ken jennings has finally lost!

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  "All I want to know is if he wears the funny Mormon underwear! (They are designed to prevent you from doing naughty things with your naughty bits!)"
  
  Okay, is this a farce, or for real? Pardon me my ignorance, but I was just wondering.
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  When you're happy, the whole world smiles with you...

  by LittleToe in

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  spread some cheer, with a simple smile.. you know you want to.. you'll be ever so happy....

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  I was going to see if I could get through this whole thread without smiling, but you got me. All those smilies were just too contagious, and those kittens, oh my, now I want a kitten (but not too sure what my dog would think of that, lol).
  
  So add another victim to your WMH (weapon of mass happiness) list.
  
  I'm going to go and try to find someone to infect,too:)
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  Snipits from Sept 2004 KM's

  by qwerty in

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  i don't think i am breaking any copyright law here by retyping (quoting) a small section from the km.. just look what tactics the organisation are using by appealing to the consience of those trapped!respecting jehovah's authority.

  with what do you associate the ancient names korah, dathan, and abiram?

  rebellion!

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  "(3) How should we react to the imperfections of those appointed to take the lead?"
  
  And of course, the disclaimer, in case they decide to ease up on the shunning rules again.
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  Buying a new Home...I hope...dream

  by Crooked Lumpy Vessel in

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  me and hubby have been looking at some model homes and they were so beautiful...i am completely sold.

  we have built over 150,000 in equity in the last 3 years, so it looks like my dream home might be a reality.

  this is something i would never have thought of in my earlier jw days.

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  "Some of the friends I confided in have already been putting me down behind my back. Like we dont need a house that size and a fireplace is just another thing to clean and blah blah."
  
  I remember when we bought our first home. The elders counseled us against it. They said something along the lines of "Well, first you buy the home, then it needs new drapes and furniture, and the next thing you know, you're missing meetings so you can have all these material things."
  
  They didn't take into consideration that we were living in a 10x50 mobile home that was thirty years old, infested with mice, had rotten floorboards and resident WEASELS living under the bath tub and in one closet (I kid you not), or that our only source of heat was a woodburning stove that often went out at night (we did have indoor plumbing, though, because I asked for it for a wedding gift, lol).
  
  And did I mention, we had a three year-old and a newborn living in this? Oh, and did I say their attitudes changed totally when we hired one of the elders to build the house? Suddenly they were all for it (picture me rolling my eyes, lol).
  
  Hey-you made a good investment. If you have the resources to have a fireplace and the size of house you feel comfortable with, you've EARNED it.
  
  Congratulations, by the way!!! Hope your vision becomes a reality:)
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  The JWs might be right....for all the wrong reasons

  by logansrun in

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  people have been predicting the end of the world for thousands of years.

  sooner or later one of them is going to be right.

  fear mongering.

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  "Sometimes I just sit back and think to myself, ?Fuck it. So what if the world is going to hell and the extinction of our race is just around the corner, enjoy what you have now and find humor in the madness going on around you.?
  
  Pessimism? Realism."
  
  Both. The world has always been going to hell and the extinction of our race has always been around the corner in the perception of every generation.There has been wars, diseases, genocides, natural disasters, violence of all types, and every negative issue imanginable ever since there's been humans. But there has also been beautiful babies born,geniuses, great inventions and scientific discoveries made, special memories of times with friends and loved ones (hence our nostalgia for the past).
  
  I guess a lot of it depends on whether or not you view events as linear or cyclical.I choose a more cyclical outlook now.Sometimes I'm pessimistic, sometimes optimistic. I think it's worth trying to make this world a better place, even though there is no assurance that all our efforts will be worth it in the end.
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  How Well Educated Are You?

  by minimus in

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  12 years of schooling (and never stayed back, either) for me.....and you?

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  "According to my old English teacher, I was a complete waste of space that would never amount to anything!!"
  
  Sounds like my former math teacher;)
  
  I'm still attending the School of Hard Knocks.
  
  Oh, and I have some college credits too.
  
  Book learning will get me that little piece of paper so I can get a job. But the school of hard knocks has taught me volumes.
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  Hi all.

  by foreverlove in

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  i am not sure where to post an introduction so i shall do that here.

  i heard about this board from a friend at www.theconversationcafe.com and look forward to some wonderful discussion.. .

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  Cicatrix

  Welcome Foreverlove:)