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  Question for Jim Ladd.

  by voltaire in

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  jim,.

  i just read on another post that you are close to being df'ed for having doubts.

  i, too, am on the bubble, so to speak.

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  Hi Voltaire,
  I DA'd myself and had a meeting with the elders. I explained how I believed the org to be a cult and accused them of being Pharosees. It was beautiful !! I have no family in. You are in a tough spot and may want to think carefully on this.
  I laughed at Mad Apostates idea. The name seems to fit. As crazy as his idea is I must admit to having fantasized about doing such. How fun to go to meetings and ask your bookstudy conductor thought provoking questions . I think it would also be fun to have a sudden revelation that I really was one of the annointed.
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  Update on Wife, my move, etc

  by Yerusalyim in

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  thanks for your thoughts and well wishes.

  liza made it through the surgery ok. it turned into a 3 1/2 hour surgery instead of the 2 hours they predicted, oh well.

  she ended up losing one of her ovaries out of the deal.

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  Hugs to you and your wife....jurs
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  VERY SHORT "CO" STORY

  by Utopian Reformist in

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  the co in our circuit, has been using the following analogy when speaking about meeting attendance and field service:.

  if your employer offered you $150.00 to skip the meetings and work overtime, would you?

  how would you feel, insulted, right?

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  jurs

  I remember a similar talk in my hall. They definately drill Not missing meetings into our heads. It use to bother me how many brothers and sisters would NOT miss a meeting when relatives that they rarely see visit and yet would miss a meeting to go on a skiing trip or such.
  jurs
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  What the ......Hell?

  by JennyNuk in

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  hello, this is technically my first post, i have been a fly on the wall for some time now.

  i would like to explain my delima but first i have to fill in some gaps.

  sorry to bore you with details but a brief history seems needed.

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  Hi Jenny,
  Welcome. Before I was a witness, I use to be into the mystical stuff. Ouji boards and fortune tellers ect.
  I don't know what to think about the weird unexplainable stuff. I do think that sometimes , people are so stricken with grief that feeling a presense helps them cope. It offers them comfort that their loved one really isn't gone.
  I've also met people (my mother) who are unstable and these feelings or contacts with the dead are really dillusions and a part of their illness.
  Today, I don't mess around with it. You've already had your head messed with by a cult. Don't add to it. Your neighbor is probably well meaning but a bit mixed up.
  jurs
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  Disinformation

  by Maximus in

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  disinformation, noun.. 1. deliberately misleading information announced publicly or leaked by an organization, government or especially by an intelligence agency in order to influence public opinion or the government in another nation: he would be the unconscious channel for a piece of disinformation aimed at another country's intelligence service (ken follett).. 2. dissemination of such misleading information.. attributive.. often used to modify another noun: disinformation operations; disinformation experts.. [possibly translation of russian dezinformatsiya.].

  maybe we need a reminder from time to time that the fds manual includes a proviso to "be wise as serpents" in their war strategy.

  maximus

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  Max,
  Were you an overseer?
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  To all parents of pedophilia victims......

  by LDH in

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  why oh why are you going to the elders for advice instead of to the police?

  i was raised in the truth, but if my child was molested by a 'jw' there isn't a mountain high enough to prevent me from filing charges and prosecuting.. why please tell me, are you contacting the 'congregation elders' for advice?.

  you are abusing (albeit unknowingly) your child for the second time.

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  LDH
  It bothers me that I do understand. It shakes me up knowing how brainwashed I was. I'm not excusing JW parents who don't report to the police. I am uncomfortable thinking about how I would have handled the situation when I was "spiritually strong".
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  To all parents of pedophilia victims......

  by LDH in

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  why oh why are you going to the elders for advice instead of to the police?

  i was raised in the truth, but if my child was molested by a 'jw' there isn't a mountain high enough to prevent me from filing charges and prosecuting.. why please tell me, are you contacting the 'congregation elders' for advice?.

  you are abusing (albeit unknowingly) your child for the second time.

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  LDH
  I'm a mother of 2 girls that thank God have never been molested or abused. I can understand why a parent would go to the elders for help. I totally believed that the org was the TRUTH. I really thought it was directed by Jehovah and that the elders had Jehovahs holy spirit. I BELIEVED IT WHOLE SOULED. THats why I believe its a CULT. I would have (at one time) probably took any Bullshit advice they gave me. Think about it.... Parents disown their own children. JW's shun people they love. They make incredible sacrifices and are willing to die before taking blood ect. If they believe Jehovah will handle the problem they may not do whats best for the child that is a victim. Why does that surprise anyone ??????
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  should I Respond to judgment panel after 14 years?

  by sennabrasil94 in

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  it's been 14 years since i was anathmatised at 17 years of age, i was never baptised but they still marked me as dissaproved asociation,it had the same effect as being dissfellowshiped.

  this tore my family apart i was satan's child acording to my stepfather want-a-be.

  the elders suggested that because i was haveing sexual relations with worldy girls and drinking that it would lead to drug addition jail and homosexuality and destruction at armageton.

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  Sennabrasil,

  Hi and welcome. I don't think by telling them off that you will make them feel guilty. You need to keep in mind that these are people who are in a cult. They don't see their harsh, unloving , and destructive behavior as being that. When your mom or stepdad wannabe call you Satan or tell you that you will be destroyed at Armagedon, they really believe that they are trying to help you. They probably also feel dissapointed in you for "rejecting Jehovah". Its crazy and hard to understand but mind control is very powerful !!
  If or when you confront them, you will most likely NOT get the response from them that you need. It would be great if your mom apologized and saw the pain she and others caused but I doubt it will happen that way. If you tell them off you will NOT instantly feel better. You may walk away actually feeling worse. I know because years ago I confronted my abusive non JW mother and it was very painful. BUT , I'm glad I did it. It was the beginning of a very LONG journey to forgiveness and letting go. Be prepared that this is going to take awhile.
  I'm glad you found this sight. The last thing you need is guilt that your not a JW. There are many other good sights as well as books for you to read.
  take care
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  Raised as JW

  by ReverendRoy in

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  as a former jehovah's witness i can both empathize and sympathize with you and the many others that have written here.

  i apologize for the long post.

  although i have posted this under a different heading, commie chris recommended a new toipic, thanks!.

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  Hi Roy,
  I'm always amazed at how some here on this board could see the flaws of the organization , even when they were just kids.
  Once when I was going through a spell of missing meetings, a sister told me I needed to go for my kids sake. (they'd be destroyed with me). It scared me into going to meetings. Its what kept me going. I'm glad for you and your daughter that you didn't fall for the Watch Tower fear tactics.....
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  How many time did you take to be cured?

  by Nicolas in

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  i mean, when i read something of the watchtower, i still have sometime this old fear of armaggeddon.

  i don't know why i have this fear since i found a lot of proofs that they aren't the true religion.

  sometime, i would like to erase all these bad things that me and my family had in the jw and begin again but unfortunately, it's impossible.

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  Hi Nicolas,
  I liked think41self's comment. I use to worry about burning in hell, now I don't, but I must admit that I didn't worry about Hell the way I worried about Armageddon. When I was a Catholic I only thought of Hell when I committed a major sin. When I was a Witness I was worried about being destroyed all the time. I think it will just take time.....jurs