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  elders visit need advice from ex elders, any

  by jurs in

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  hi eveyone,.

  i just got back from vacation.

  i missed reading everyones postings.. i just received a call from an elder in my congregation.

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  thanks for the advice everyone, when on the phone , i asked the elder if i could go over apostate literature. he said he'd go over my questions. he also said he wanted to make sure that i really meant what i wrote in my DA letter, wether it was emotional and impulsive jesture. i told him i meant it and i beleive its a cult . he still wants to come over and talk. your right about me having no idea how the system works and what their really after but i do know from my own personal experience as well as what i've read here that certain points , however small, i.e. the beard issue, can be put on the shelf but at some point those issues can turn to doubts. i want to bring up points not expecting to win them over but perhaps make them a little uncomfortable and perhaps one day my comments compounded with their own experiences might help them see it as a cult. jurs
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  elders visit need advice from ex elders, any

  by jurs in

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  hi eveyone,.

  i just got back from vacation.

  i missed reading everyones postings.. i just received a call from an elder in my congregation.

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  hi eveyone,
  i just got back from vacation. i missed reading everyones postings.
  i just received a call from an elder in my congregation. he told me they received my DA letter but have not announced it yet. they wanted to meet with me. i agreed to meet with them this friday. i really want to have this meeting and was surprised but glad they called. i want to meet with the elders for a variety of reasons.
  i want them to know when they see me on the street and they won't acknowledge my existance by saying hello or politely asking how i am because i simply no longer beleive this is the only true religion that i don't think thats ok. i want this meeting because i want to explain why i no longer beleive its the truth. i didn't want to refuse meeting with them because i beleive they want to meet with me to try and help me. i think their intentions are good. i would like to help them. i'll feel better knowing i tried and that i didn't pass up an opportunity to help someone get out of a cult. mainly, it will feel good !!! Do any of you have any advice on what to bring up or how to ???? jurs
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  Survey

  by Vienna in

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  how many on this board are: a) christains--not a jw b) jehovah's witnesses c) do not believe in god d) have a belief in god but just not active in anything right now.

  i'm new to the board and was curious as to everyone's standing.

  i'm 30, a christain, i left the jws 3 years ago (after being in it for 21 years) to follow jesus and heard of, among other good things, this great thing called: grace!

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  hi vienna,
  i DA"d myself several weeks ago. to answer your survey questions is difficult. it really depends on the day or minute. i want to believe in God. i want to be a christian and find a church. but after being duped i no longer feel i'm so smart as to figure out what the "truth" really is. i don't believe an angel will guied me to it. i thought that once and i was wrong. i no longer believe if you have a sincere heart and you search "like one searching for a hidden treasure you'll find all the answers. i still pray but i admit to God i don't know who he is. if there is a God and i hope there is i think he'll understand..
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  Demons In Garage Sales or Worse

  by Lindy in

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  well guys, i've done it now!

  our whole little town has a sale every june and this one was no exception.

  while hubby was watching our sale, my oldest daughter and i walked around the neighborhood to see what we could filch out of our neighbors renderings.

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  hi lindy,
  i enjoyed the laugh !! i went to a church yard sale once when i was a JW and felt awful. also , last summer our family went to Europe, i wouldn't go into the Sistine chapel. Darn!!!! i would have liked to have seen it .
  jurs
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  What Caused Your First Doubt ?

  by Big Jim in

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  for me it was when i was about twelve years old and my best friends dad was disfellowshipped from the congregation.. i could not understand how a god of love would treat someone so coldly.. i used to think what if that was the way my parents would treat me if i had done something wrong, that would be so hard and cruel.. as i got older another thing that bothered me was the beard issue.

  it may sound pretty trivial however the society has always refused to make a good arguement as to why they would give you the old cold shoulder if you were to grow one.. two more items; first i could not understand why all the congregations and all the assemblys would give income reports.

  and the society never did.

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  Like Mulan I had several things that nagged at me but i also put them on the shelf. The beard issue , wearing dresses and suits, strange superstitions i.e. smurfs, and having to count time in service. what finally brought all of those nagging issues to a head was when i realized that an elder was hiding a wrong and i thought he was a hypocrite. then a friend had called me and told me her daughter , who was only a teenager, was accused of being a witch !!! i am not kidding !!! she was wearing too much make up and wore black clothes. she also got a tatoo ( eyeliner tatoo . ) that was the final straw. i came to the internet and the rest is history...
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  JUSTICE #3 - Sin worse than Apostasy!

  by Amazing in

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  a sin worse than apostasy .

  there was a very nice young couple in our congregation with one child.

  no one could see why she should not be reinstated.

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  i encourage you to write a book as well. Amazing, do you think if this had been a brother rather than a sister that the outcome would have been different? jurs
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  JUSTICE #2 - Making Mole Hills into Mountains

  by Amazing in

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  making mole hills into mountains .

  we had a wonderful and most exemplary family in our congregation.

  they are hard workers, hospitable, caring, generous, suffer with you through hardship, kind, compassionate, and as loyal to the organization as any family could be.

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  hi amazing,
  thank you for the post. how sad for the child. i think that many of us here can think of things we are now ashamed of that we participated in ,thinking we were being a good JW being free of bloodguilt. wether it be shunning someone or turning a close friends private confidence in to the elders. its strange how common sense is lost when one becomes a member. i look back at my time in the organization and wonder how i ever got caught up in such garbage. perhaps you didn't help that child but who know's who is reading this post. perhaps it may help someone else get out who has kids.....jurs
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  Fark, looked all over for YK's "apology"

  by Tallyman in

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  ...but can't seem to find it anywhere - for all those insults he hurled.. has your patience run out?.

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  i don't understand why some have defended 'You know" or why his identity should remain secret. "you know is quite lucky that i do not know who he is because i would have no problem revealing his identity. he didn't just call tallyman a cruel name , he kicked a man when he was down!! i certainly have no respect for anyone who would rub salt in someones wounds and i definately wouldn't protect someone like that. if he were DF'd it would be his own fault....jurs
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  Children should feel free to.....

  by biblexaminer in

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  i have one question to ask my local jw's, be they on the body, or be they higher up in the heirarchy.. it is this... .

  watchtower literature tells me over and over again, that as a parent, i have to make my children feel that they can "freely speak" about whatever is troubling them.

  the question is, at what age i should make them stop feeling this way, and help them to see the need to shut up, sit down, and quit rocking the boat.

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  good topic. parents don't have to tell their children to keep their thoughts to themselves they learn it instictively. no wonder so many lesd a double life. you cant freely question the organization but pretend like you can. jurs
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  Turning the Tables

  by joelbear in

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  no conclusions, just thoughts.. should we disfellowship all of our friends and family who are jehovah's witnesses in order to protect ourselves and in order to wake them up to see how dangerous a path they are on?.

  would like to see a discussion of this.. thanks.

  joel

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  i wouldn't shun anyone. i've been researching shunning and it is not a first century or any century Christian practice. it's definately an effective cult tactic. jurs