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  End Times Prophets are BOGUS! - Matt.24, Mark 13, Luke.21

  by LittleToe in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i've had a thing against hearing about "end times prophecies" for some time now, no doubt as a reaction against what i had been raised with by the wts.. recently, however, i had cause to re-read luke 21 in "the message".. it suddenly struck me how we would always use matthew 24 to support 1914, but only dipped into mark 13 and luke 21 occasionally.

  you may remember the "tote" watchtower in 1995 (?

  ) which was used to dismantle the "generation" teaching we'd all previously believed, but there was no parallel study from luke.

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  Narkissos

  The Preterists were a stepping stone for me in stepping away from my escatological expectations. I think it may help others do the same, unless you come along and slam the folks with the reality that the gospels were not written until after 70 CE, after the fact.

  was "true prophecy" indeed... because it did not come true

  Questions:

  • Do you feel Mark was not an exception, as some say his account was written before 70 CE.
  • Why do you differentiate the test of Prophet from the test of Prophecy. (more explanation)
  • Do you view any New Testament prophesy as being fulfilled?

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  End Times Prophets are BOGUS! - Matt.24, Mark 13, Luke.21

  by LittleToe in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i've had a thing against hearing about "end times prophecies" for some time now, no doubt as a reaction against what i had been raised with by the wts.. recently, however, i had cause to re-read luke 21 in "the message".. it suddenly struck me how we would always use matthew 24 to support 1914, but only dipped into mark 13 and luke 21 occasionally.

  you may remember the "tote" watchtower in 1995 (?

  ) which was used to dismantle the "generation" teaching we'd all previously believed, but there was no parallel study from luke.

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  It is amazing how when one is raised with belief in a concept it takes so much effort to disprove it to ourselves as if we adopted the concept on the basis of proof.

  Check out the Preterist. After reading a little one may wonder "when did I become convinced there was as extended or "major" fulfillment of prophecy in the first place".

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  Guess How Much My 3 Weeks In Hospital Cost?

  by Englishman in

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  2. friends

  absolutely nothing.

  zilch.

  zero.. the uk national health service may have it's detractors because of it's lengthy waiting lists.

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  Btt,

  (listen up George W)

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  Narkissos, Narkissos, Narkissos....

  by Celia in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  narkissos

  sep 26, 2004

  post 1098 of 1098. since 27-sep-03.

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  Conned By Black & Decker.

  by Englishman in

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  2. friends

  i don't use b & d stuff much.

  i much prefer to buy my tools from makita or bosch.

  they last for years too.

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  One of the best tools available for years has been DeWalt. Beating out Makita, Ryobi and Milwaukee in southern US. But guess who bought out DeWalt a few years ago. Black and Decker. So far I see no depreciation in quality. They will probably keep this line high quality commercial. But that being the case, don't expect ANYTHING with a Black and Decker label on it to be of anything other that a home owners junk tool.

  Mike, you alerted us to another ploy. Thanks. Black and Decker has a place in the market. They make great gifts to home owners who will never use them.

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  Rutherford Exposed: The Story of Berta and Bonnie

  by Farkel in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  it was made by a women who in later years wore crotchless panties and bras which had holes in the nipple areas.

  he not only knew the woman in question (she's now deceased), he has met her numerous times.

  up until recently this secret of her year's long sexual affair with rutherford was kept by the family.

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  Golf

  by stillajwexelder in

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  a couple was on their honeymoon, lying in bed, about ready to consummate.

  the phone and goes back to bed to make love a second time.

  he'd come back to bed and do it again.

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  Former JW Conference, October 21-24 in Wenatchee WA.

  by jst2laws in

  1. forum
  2. announcements

  you are invited to attend a conference of former jws october 21-24 at 1835 n. western in wenatchee wa 98801. this is an annual event organized by richard rawe and his associates.

  richard is the exjw who's story was portrayed in the "good faith" off broadway play.

  if you are like me the word conference conjures feeling associated the word convention.

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  Toreador,

  Will there be tapes or video available to purchase afterwards?

  Yes, they are in the habit of taping the program. I hope to find how to purchase copies.

  Outnfree,

  I have a list of motels he has sent. I will scan them and put them up this week-end.

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  How much harm have you caused your congregation?

  by Joker10 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  how much harm did you cause to the people in your congregation?

  everybody complains how the witnesses did this and that and in the process caused so much harm.

  but what you don't say is how much pain you caused others while you were in.

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  Joker,

  I am not silent; garbage doen't come out of my mouth.

  Are you really making "sure of all things, hold fast to what is fine"?

  This is you responsibility to God, not the Watchtower.

  Jst2laws

  Edit to add, Joker, I'm not giving you a hard time. I am prodding you to think about it. I have been where you are. If you check my first post here I came on JWD as an elder defending the WT. Please keep an open mind to the facts.
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  Rutherford Exposed: The Story of Berta and Bonnie

  by Farkel in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  it was made by a women who in later years wore crotchless panties and bras which had holes in the nipple areas.

  he not only knew the woman in question (she's now deceased), he has met her numerous times.

  up until recently this secret of her year's long sexual affair with rutherford was kept by the family.

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  Farkel,

  This thread is not necessarily about Rutherford. This thread has brought a whole bunch of us TOGETHER in a common goal.

  That is why I commended you all above. I'm amazed at the ability of those contributing to confirm or dismiss points with research, even finding new info while the thread is alive. We have talented people here who have proven they can work together and possibly do some great things. (hint, hint)

  Lets develope this and do something with it.

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