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  Mark your calendars - Oral arguement in Barbara Anderson case-APRIL 14th

  by BONEZZ in

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  2. friends

  ed bell will be arguing for barbara anderson in the tennessee court of appeals on april 14th.

  this case may go to the supreme court.

  it is very important for a lot of us.the wtbs hides behind the first amendment whenever they can (usually in money related cases) and then disposes of the rights of individuals who wish to leave, coerces families and causes families to break apart.

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  Candidlynuts,

  where is the case going to be heard at?

  I have heard Nashville, tn. I hope, as Bonezz suggested, people mark their calenders and if they are close enough, attend.

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  607, 607, 607

  by Pole in

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  hi scholar!

  is that your phone number?

  pole - ba and ma in linguistics

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  HS,

  Seriously, while at Bethel we considered Demonic Dates one morning. Freddie was conducting the Days Text and finally screamed:

  Demonic dates, COME OUT.

  At every table the date bowls emptied and Demonic Dates were dancing on the on the walls and the cieling.

  Needless to say, no one at Bethel will ever again question the validity of 607

  And thats the trufe

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  Mark your calendars - Oral arguement in Barbara Anderson case-APRIL 14th

  by BONEZZ in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ed bell will be arguing for barbara anderson in the tennessee court of appeals on april 14th.

  this case may go to the supreme court.

  it is very important for a lot of us.the wtbs hides behind the first amendment whenever they can (usually in money related cases) and then disposes of the rights of individuals who wish to leave, coerces families and causes families to break apart.

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  Hello Loveis,

  If the case is at the appeal court level, this must mean that the WTS won the case at the trial court level

  This is true most often. However, in the Anderson case all 8 allegations were approved to go to trial but the WT requested an interlocutory on the charge of "wrongful disfellowshipping". This is a request for judgment on a question that may need settling before the case procedes to the next stage. There was no statute in Tennessee law that covered such a charge. The judge seemed to feel it should go to trial anyway but granted the interlocutory on that one charge. It would have been an issue the WT would have used to appeal after the trial so it may have been prudent to allow it. The other seven counts will go to trial regardless of the appeal courts decision on this one charge.

  Any information on exactly how things went down at the lower court level? And, why didn't anyone on this board have news of it happening at the time?

  I think this was mentioned somewhere on a thread asking what the status was of the Anderson case. Since the case will yet go to court regardless of the appeal court's decision on count 8 the plaintifs are simply waiting to get this question settled so as to procede.

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  Studies over....................sob............they dont want me...

  by holly in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  straight away told im not ready for baptism, not with the amount and depth of questions, that ive been warned about these sites and that apostates will do anything to knock jws.

  proving its the true religion bec the bible says it will happen (shows me scriptures).

  also told it doesnt happen with any other religious group - usually people just quietly leave and make no fuss - further proof that ths is the true religion.. i asked about all the dates where predictions were made, eg 1914, 1975. was told there were some articles loosly talking the 'possibility' of something happening, but the wt never said it definitely would - how could it, these are just ordinary men, not profits.

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  (((Holly)))

  I'm sorry you are saddened. You just got a taste of what it would be like if you got baptised and failed to please them.

  the worst of it is. id actually got to know this woman quiet well. id been away with her and some of her friends and family. id gotten to know a lot of people i actually liked. and a lot of the friends i had before i stopped mixing with. and now she doesnt want to see me.

  She is obeying. The witnesses are instructed to discontinue studies with those who do not "progress spiritually" which means those who do not swallow it 'hook, line and sinker'. But at least you can see her interest in you (theocratic love) is conditional upon your acceptance and comformity.

  Keep in mind, as Panda said, you and JWD scare her. She hasn't seen what you have seen so and is afraid to look. She is even afraid you may truly have unanswerable questions. We as jws used to spew out those patent answers like robots but in our own heart we wondered, fearfully, if we weren't sticking our heads in the sand.

  Hang on girl. You will find what you are looking for.

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  Mark your calendars - Oral arguement in Barbara Anderson case-APRIL 14th

  by BONEZZ in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ed bell will be arguing for barbara anderson in the tennessee court of appeals on april 14th.

  this case may go to the supreme court.

  it is very important for a lot of us.the wtbs hides behind the first amendment whenever they can (usually in money related cases) and then disposes of the rights of individuals who wish to leave, coerces families and causes families to break apart.

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  Hello Bonezz, I would like to clarify a couple of points so people do not get unrealistic hopes.

  Many though, have chosen to walk/fade away without being left alone (I'm not sure how DAing will play into this). Those who have been aggressively pursued by elders and not left alone may have a legitimate claim.

  The Anderson case is much more than this. The Andersons were aggressively pursued, yes, but could hardly be compared to someone who is fading away and just wants to be left alone. Barbara went on Dateline with inside information and the WT was trying to silence her before Dateline aired and then discredit her after it aired. While this is very bad behavior, trying to silence a whistle blower and then punishing them for publicly exposing what may prove to be criminal behavior, this action by the WT is not typically taken against the average JW trying to fade.

  I have always maintained (& still do) that the WTBS is guilty of slander and liable . . they sometimes announce from the platform and write in their own publications, to treat the person as a "fornicator or drunkard", as well as other things. It is malicious defamation! It would be the same as if your son quit the Boy Scouts and the Troop Leader announced to everyone that they should treat the former member as "a sissy or drug abuser."

  You have two different issues mixed here.

  1 It makes a great deal of difference if a religious organization does this compared to a non-religious organization such as the boy scouts 2 Most often the only comments made officially by a JW congregation is that an individual is no longer a JW (by dfing or disassociation). They do little to discourage the destructive rumor mill and sometimes encourage it, however, it would be difficult to make a case of this.

  What is different with the Anderson case is that the WT spokesmen went outside the congregation to the media to publicly damage the reputation of Barbara Anderson by suggesting immorality, denying the Dateline program had anything to do with their actions. Once the dust settles on this case and a judgment is received against the Watchtower perhaps Ed Bell will want to continue pursuing the WT to redefine the limits of "ecclesiastical privilege". But, until then I wonder if he really wants to hear from every one of us who has been treated unfairly? You have done some fine research. Good that you are interested in this case. As you say, all of us should be. Jst2laws
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  Only Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Yvonne A in

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  i'm just new to this internet stuff and am studying with the jehovah's witnesses at present.please don't take my lack of knowledge as cheek.

  i just want to know if it's meant to be only jehovah's witnesses using this site.

  i fully intend to become baptised but was wondering if there's any security to prevent people who shouldn't be using the site and are maybe abusing it from doing so.

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  Hello and welcome Yvonne,

  I, like many here, have decades of experience as a JW. Ten years in the fultime work, most at the headquarters (Bethel) and about 30 years as an elder, most of that time as the presiding overseer.

  I at one time would have warned others that listening to those who have a different perspective could be dangerous. But then I finally realized that ANY TIME someone tells us not to listen to another perspective or evidence that conflicts with what is being conveyed a RED flag should go up in our minds. I hope you stick around, learn and make friends.

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  It's Final... The GB are Lizard Beings

  by FreePeace in

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  i was doing some research for a novel i'm writing, and came across this article.

  while i pride myself on being open minded, this one is just a bit over the edge without proof.. http://www.reptilianagenda.com/exp/e122299a.shtml.

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  She said,

  Either I was a genius or totally insane

  HHHMMM.

  Freepeace,

  Hey, Joy is down your way somewhere.

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  I'm not alone

  by imnottheonlyone! in

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  for years i have felt i was the only one on earth that was reeling from my involvement with jw.

  i stumbled upon this website and feel an overwhelming desire to dance.

  here is my story:.

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  Hello and welcome,

  I'm sure your experience is truly unique to you although many of us have had simular bad experiences. As to 'seeing the organization' for what it is, escaping, finding happiness and now this board, you certainly are not the only one, as your screen name says. You will probably find many good friends here. You will also find some who have not yet found happiness. I suspect you will not only find strength and support here but in a short time you will be extending it to those not as far along in this journey.

  Good to have you join us.

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  Let's do something big for this year's memorial !

  by Simon in

  1. forum
  2. announcements

  enough of the wts intimidation and getting away with all sorts of crap.

  we, "the people", have more power than they, "the establishment", do.. this year i propose that we make ourselves heard and noticed.

  that as many people as possible protest at their beloved memorial - the one event that is "most sacred" to them.. i am not suggesting that we disrupt or do anything illegal but simply that we exercise our right to take up their offer of free wine and make a statement.. go, drink.

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  Mouthy

  Simon

  lIke Mouthy said, Go to your room.

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  How do we intergrate our masuline with our femine???

  by frankiespeakin in

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  there has to be tremendous benifit to be able to do so.

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  Hey dude,

  I AM in touch with my feminine side.

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