Prayers that God answers. Any examples?
I'll let you know for sure after the lottery numbers are given tonight.
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259Prayers that God answers. Any examples?
by punkofnice inwhen i believed in god i tried not to pray for anything selfish.. after a while i began to think that a lot of things i was asking my imaginary friend in the sky for were selfish for some reason.. i do not ever remember a single thing i prayed for ever being answered.
if there was the appearance of an answer it was because i did mental gymnastics to make it fit the delusion that god had actually answered me.
there was never an obvious message/answer from god.
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JWStruggle post: Bethel Layoffs Reveal a Kingdom without Clothes
by Londo111 inhttp://www.jwstruggle.com/2013/07/bethel-layoffs-reveal-a-kingdom-without-clothes/.
despite everything, i still have a lingering admiration toward those who serve or have served in bethel.
it is not that i believe it is gods organization in any way, shape, or form.
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Mary
He had no idea life on the outside was this hard.
That is, unfortunately, the reality of being a middle-aged Bethelite these days. They were told when they were young to join Bethel and they'd be taken care of for life. (There was actually something like this written in the literature several years ago that I came across one day---I'll see if I can find it again).
I also saw a show on tv a few years ago where it showed what life was like in Bethel. One woman who was working in the laundry was asked by the reporter how she felt doing the laundry for everyone else. She made the comment that 'they wouldn't have time to do it themselves and still attend to all the spiritual needs' or something equally as dumb. Because that is exactly what those who live outside the holy of holies is expected to do. The R&F are supposed to work, cook, clean, do laundry, buy groceries, attend to the children, study, attend meetings, field serve-us, etc. etc. Bethelites have most of this done for them and it's all free. No wonder it's such a shock to them when they have to live in the real world made up of rent, groceries, clothing, bills, work, etc. because they haven't a clue what the real world is actually like.
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Mary
Mary: Your links are a big FAIL - there is no evidence there at all, just unsubstantiated claims.
Simon, I never thought I'd say this but some of your statements are becoming very irrational. Which surprises me as I've always thought you to be a level-headed person. I sent you 2 links that showed her husband is a wife/spouse beater. He's admitted it. And now you're saying that it's a "big FAIL"? Seriously?
Whatever. I've grown tired of this discussion. In reality it makes no difference what you or I or anyone else thinks about the whole situation because Zimmerman was found 'not guilty' by a panel of his peers. Whether we agree with it or not, it is what it is and we can't change it.
Time to move on.
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And you thought the witlesses are bad?
by WTWizard inyes, they are bad.
dreams lost because of pious-sneering, opportunities lost because of the rules, vacations lost, missing holidays, and the dread of field circus are bad.. however, i have found information about a few even worse cults that are gaining traction.
now, these are not the "the world is going to end and you need to commit suicide to be saved" rubbish.
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Mary
Children as young as 2 are bound and forced to sit at attention.
Why do I foresee that in a few years time, members of this whacky cult are going to have numerous child-abuse charges laid against them?
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Mary
her low-life husband "Gray himself admitted in a deposition to abusing "all five of his babies' mamas except one," and to hitting Alexander
Simon asked: I did not come across those details in any of the articles I found - do you have a link?
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Mary
What abuse are you talking about exactly? I guess the abuse she claims as the excuse for her attempting murder?
Simon, for heavens sakes, her low-life husband "Gray himself admitted in a deposition to abusing "all five of his babies' mamas except one," and to hitting Alexander." There's no question as to whether or not he abused her. He's admitted that he did.
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Mary
Her abused mental state should have been factored in sentencing though which it clearly was not.
Exactly. It begs the question as to why her POS husband wasn't in jail for abuse but that's another issue entirely.
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Mary
Mary, do you feel it's okay or justified to come back and fire a bullet towards an abusive husband and a child of 9 and 13, when she could have just gotten in her car and drove off and called the police?
I don't think it's that simple TT. She was having a fight with a man with a history of violence who had beat her and threatened to kill her. She obviously felt threatened by him when this was happening, got the gun and fired a warning shot at him. Was it a good idea to do this in front of his kids? Of course not. But as I've already stated, people in abusive relationships do not always think rationally or do the rational thing. In the book I mentioned above, Francine Hughes' 3 children were there when she started the house on fire. Another abused woman told about in the book Life With Billykilled her abusive drunken pig husband with her teenaged son there. These women have no history of violence but people can only take so much before they snap.
In Marissa Alexander's case, I would think that the history of abuse would have been strongly considered as a reason to let her go. No one died but she gets 20 years in prison. Just unbelievable.......
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- She entered his house thinking he wasn't home to remove items. It says it was 'their' former home and apparently she still had a key. With the history of violence this guy had, I don't think it is at all unreasonable for her to want to get some of her items when she thought he wouldn't be there. We did the same thing years ago when my one sister was living with an abusive guy. We moved her out of there but she wanted to go back about a week later to get some of her items that she had left there. As fate would have it, Roger-the-creep unexpectedly showed up and if we had not been there with her, it would have gotten ugly really quick.
- When discovering he was there she went out to her vehicle to get a gun. No, it says after they had an 'altercation', she went out to the garage, apparently wanting to get away from him. She couldn't because the garage door wasn't working. Knowing only too well what he was capable of, she got the gun and fired.
That isn't "stand your ground" ... it's not meant to be an excuse to attack someone. Now what miscarriage of justice do you imagine you've seen?
Simon, are you kidding? Do you have any idea what a history of domestic abuse can do to a person? I'm stunned you would even say that. You should read a book called "The Burning Bed". A true story of Francine Hughes who had an extremely abusive husband and after 13 years, she snapped and killed him. He wasn't immediately threatening her, he was, in fact, passed out drunk in his bed. She torched the house with him in it. She was eventually found "not guilty" because the jury understood the whole pattern of domestic abuse. The fact that Marissa Alexander, who was abused for years by her husband actually stands her ground when she felt she was in danger, and is now sentenced to 20 years in prison, is just sick beyond words.
So please drop the rediculous comparisons - they just make people look desperate and silly.
Sorry you think it does. Fortunately there's alot of people out there who are comparing the two cases as it highlights the complete inequity in the 'Stand Your Ground' laws in Florida.
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She "went back" and shot towards her husband and his thirteen year old sons. The two cases are completely different.
No they're not. They're virtually the same thing but with two different results. This woman's husband has a history of violence. She couldn't get away from him and knew that she was in for a beating or something even worse so she did what she thought she had to do because she obviously felt her life was in danger: she shot in his direction but didn't kill him. She got 20 freaking years for that!
George Zimmerman followed an unarmed teenager and ends up killing him because he felt his life was in danger. He walks away a free man.
No two sets of rules here...........