Posts by ambersun

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I'm Not Spiritual

by FrankWTower in

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i remember listening and thinking about other people and how spiritual they are.

some jw's eat, sleep and breathe watchtower.

and i used to think, "why can't i be like them?

ambersun

The things they term spiritual are tasks, behavior, acts, doctrine..

This is so true, mindseye. When I was a dub there was one thing that really got to me. When someone in the congregation was ill and needed care and attention, the time given to this poor soul by 'loving' brothers and sisters was always conditional to how much they could spare from their ministry work which always took precedence.

There is one occasion from way back that really sticks in my mind. A sister of the remnant was ill and bedridden. All her family and friends were out knocking doors or doing other 'spiritual' things while she sat alone at home. She was a lovely person who had helped me a lot, and to me there was no option but to go to her in her time of need. As far as I was concerned the ministry could wait - she was more important! Well, one day when I had just placed a tray in front of her with a cup of tea and a snack, she gave a long, sad sigh. I asked what was the matter. She said "Amber, you are so kind and caring. If only you put as much effort into your spiritual welfare as you do into caring for people......." she trailed off with another sad sigh. It appeared she would have been happier if I was out knocking doors. I was speechless!! Here was I, caring for a sick lady who would otherwise be alone and neglected while her family tended to their doctrinal needs, yet I was the one who was lacking spiritually.

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Would You Be Shocked If You Found Out That A JW That YOU Knew Was Here?

by minimus in

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i bet there's a lot of jws in "good standiing" that frequent this place.. what do you think?

?.

ambersun

I would be absolutely delighted to find someone I knew and would offer friendship and support if they wanted it

That is, of course, provided they did not turn out to be sneaky JWs who would tell my family what I am up to here. Then I would be in deep doodoo

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Watchtower 2011 July 15 Study Edition: Are all study editions like this?

by Tuber in

so during my research on the wts, i stubled across a link to the july 15th watchtower.. .

http://download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/w_e_20110715.pdf.

i'm assuming that the study editions are the ones that they only give to members/ those who attend meetings.. .

ambersun

Oh dear, punkofnice, I am so sorry. At least my other half came out of the borg with me, it is just my extended family I have to contend with, and that is frustrating enough so I really feel for you.

Thanks, Tuber, for your excellent analysis of this month's study edition Watchtower which makes me wonder how any reasonably intelligent adult can allow themselves to be taken in by the blatant hypocracy of it all.

This, for instance:-

15(18) Satan wants to silence JWs. He tries to distract and divide them by making them do such things as "gadding about" and forwarding non-essential emails. We have no right to tell other people how to live their lives (must have been pissing themselves laughing as they wrote that). Idle and troublesome behaviour distracts us from kingdom preaching. If we aren't supporting Jehovah and his work, we're supporting Satan.I noticed some of my JW nephews and nieces on facebook getting twitchy a month or so ago because they seemed to think the GB was about to order them to stop using facebook, then they breathed a collective sigh of relief when they realised they could continue on facebook as long as they didn't include stupid things. The fact that several young adults were prepared to stop using facebook, a very important part of their social lives, on the whim of a few faceless elderly men in Broolkyn who they have never met and are very unlikely to, makes a total mockery of their claim "No right to tell other people how to live their lives". The young JWs in question would indeed have stopped if ordered to because they are scared of the consequences if they don't fall in line.

Aaaahhhhgggg

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My Wedding Photos are. . .

by leavingwt in

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friends

chock full of jehovah's witnesses.

with the exception of my wife and my best man, they're all jws.

jws who probably despise me.

ambersun

Congratulations Mr & Mrs Leavingwt, have a wonderful 10th Anniversary

I know how you feel about the wedding photos being chock full of JWs. Ours was a KH wedding back in the mid 1970s, but as we moved to different congregations over the years, then stopped going to meetings altogether over 20 years ago we haven't got a clue who many of of the faces on our wedding photos belong to, apart from family and a few friends.

A lot of the other guests were members of our congregation but could have been total strangers who wandered in off the street as far as we know, we haven't seen them in all these years and just don't recognise them!

Our lives have changed so much since then, it's like looking at the wedding photos of another couple. Quite surreal.

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Watchtower 2011 July 15 Study Edition: Are all study editions like this?

by Tuber in

so during my research on the wts, i stubled across a link to the july 15th watchtower.. .

http://download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/w_e_20110715.pdf.

i'm assuming that the study editions are the ones that they only give to members/ those who attend meetings.. .

ambersun

I pity her having to sit listening to the above watchtower propaganda

I quite agree punkofnice, I feel the same way about my loved ones stuck in the borg being brainwashed into believing this rubbish, which is why I am hoping that the occasional quick, funny, throw away comments such as yours will be helpful to use in defence against a JW in full flow. It throws their OWN doctrine back at them in a way that makes them sound ridiculous, and catches them unawares before they are able to allow their eyes to glaze over and revert to 'dubby dreamworld' as you so accurately put it. You are not arguing with them, just passing a comment.

I would guess your wife was angry because it hit a nerve. A similar thing happened when I made a flippant remark to my sister about how clever Rutherford was to get away with living a life of luxury in Beth Sarim back in the 1920s by telling everyone he was looking after it for Abraham, due to be resurrected back onto the earth at any moment. I said, you've got to give it to him, he got everyone believing him so he was a clever bloke wasn't he. She was not amused!

Hopefully these short, flippant remarks of ours will awaken something in their subconciouses to make them start thinking for themselves before the instruction in WT 6 (16) Avoid false teachers (and apostates, especially those damn apostates) takes over their brain.

The site is full of experiences where similar things have happened, so who knows!

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Watchtower 2011 July 15 Study Edition: Are all study editions like this?

by Tuber in

so during my research on the wts, i stubled across a link to the july 15th watchtower.. .

http://download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/w_e_20110715.pdf.

i'm assuming that the study editions are the ones that they only give to members/ those who attend meetings.. .

ambersun

Jar Hoover will lovingly kill you SOON (Terms and conditions apply and are subject to 'overlapping')?

I am collecting one liner comments to throw back at certain JWs I come in contact with who love to remind me how very close the end is now.

This one is now top of my list, it's brilliant! Thanks punkofnice

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Ingenious use of Awake magazines - go to 6:03

by bazzybaby in

ambersun

That has made my day! Utterly brilliant!!!

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Once again I say goodbye

by mouthy in

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friends

i find the board is getting very unfriendly of late.

used to be great to be aboard.

but the snipping that so many.

ambersun

Sylvia made a lovely post asking for my return
So your stuck with me again LOL

Great news! Welcome back mouthy

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What made you leave "The Truth"?

by Chemical Emotions in

for me it was many things.

most concerned certain teachings that invloved genders, children, sex, sexuality and sexual orientations, disfellowshipping, apostates, blood, rape, and few other things, as well as the jw's unloving attitude toward so many people..

ambersun

I had known it was not 'The Truth' for many many years and just kept going because of not wanting to hurt my parents and later, for the sake of my marriage.

It all started a few years after I was baptised when I found a load of books and Watchtowers going back to Russell and Rutherford on a book shelf in the house of a very elderly brother, including a Birthday Book! I couldn't believe what I was reading and how the Society had changed so many of its doctrines. The scales fell from my eyes that day but I was terrified of telling anyone how I felt for fear of being disfellowshipped and shunned by everyone.

I started to fade as best I could after the birth of my second child using every excuse I could think of to miss meetings and not go out knocking doors, but was just considered 'weak'. There was no internet support in those days and I wasn't even aware that there were other JWs who felt the same way I did.

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Oct 15, 2011 WT on jw.org now

by Gayle in

i could only scan quickly,,but some could point out other things there:.

(quote) we can create opportunities.

to rejoice with them by occasionally inviting.

ambersun

On the other
hand, if a certain leisure activity is made up
of “ingredients” that are wholesome in Jehovah’s
eyes, then such recreationmay well
be beneficial and refreshing to you.—Gal. 5:

Like knitting!! It does not involve riotous celebrations or excessive risk taking, and ticks all the right JW boxes.

I spent many a looong winter evening at home knitting jumpers when my teenage peers were out enjoying themselves. Oh the memories