Joyzabel

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  Please help me prove the wts wrong

  by gringojj in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  my wife was born in the jw religion but was never baptised.

  she is currently studying and is on the road to baptism.

  i am an atheist, and i have little comprehension of the bible.

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  Joyzabel

  Welcome to the board.

  Yes, there is a lot of information available now, especially online about Jehovah's Witnesses.

  But being a JW or dealing with someone who is becoming a JW's combatting mind control.

  Here is my list of recommended reading.

  Crisis of Conscience Ray Franz

  In Search of Christian Freedom Ray Franz

  Gentile Times Revisited Carl Olof Jonnson

  Living in the Last Days? Carl Olof Jonnson

  Apocalypse Delayed James Penton

  A Road Less Traveled M. Scott Peck, M.D.

  Further Along A Road Less Traveled M. Scott Peck, M.D.

  People of the Lie M. Scott Peck. M. D.

  Combating Mind Control Steve Hassen

  True Believer Eric Hoffer

  The Myth of Certainty Daniel Taylor

  The History of God Karen Armstrong

  Let us know how things go. I hope you can reach your wife.

  Joy
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  A study of Galatians

  by Billygoat in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  several months ago, i asked a friend of mine from church to become my "accountability partner.

  " basically, someone that meets with me once a week and we share what is going on in our lives.

  the point is to share joys, unburden griefs, pray together, pray for each other, be brutally honest with each other, study the bible together, etc.

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  Joyzabel

  My favorite version is the old "Living Bible". The old dark green one. It was reading Galations that the light went on and I saw the WT for what it was or should I say was NOT.

  No wonder the WT picks and chooses what verses they refer to in Galations and Romans. *sheeesh* If you read those two books alone, you would see that they WT is not following Jesus's teachings but their own made up stuff. (do more, do more, beat the friends, beat the friends)

  Enjoy!
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  Our Mouthy/Granny needs us.........

  by morty in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just got a pm from mouthy/grace/granny and she is not feeling up to par these days..... her arthritis and diabetes is acting up..... can you please send her a special prayer or thought her way..... we all know she well worth it..... .

  hope you get well real soon...... .

  love morty..... i have thoughts being sent to you granny and i hope you feel better real soon......

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  Joyzabel

  (((((Grace))))
  you have always been an inspiration by your gutsy spirit.

  Please take good care of yourself and know that you are loved.
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  Flat Stanley UPDATE

  by Princess in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i spent some time volunteering in rhys' class this morning.

  his teacher very excitedly showed me a large package from country woman....full of candy from the netherlands!

  she was amazed at the great cards branda sent along with the candy as well as some maps of her area.

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  Joyzabel

  ok, Flat Stanley enjoyed his time in the sun. But got a little burnt.

  He's on his way to Idaho!!

  Hope the kids enjoy the postcard.
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  new information on disfellowshipping

  by cr1234 in

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  2. bible

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  is it true that jw's are going to seek out inactive ones and if they are not willing to go back to the kingdom hall that they will be disfellowshipped?

  i heard that this is a new policy.. thanks

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  Joyzabel

  On page 155 in the new OM book the phrase "or by their actions" (about people who do not want to be JWs anymore) is a broad enough term for elders to make announcements about those who do not want to return to the KH. i.e. "SoandSo are no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses".

  The verbal instructions coming down from headquarters through the Circuit Overseerer is to ask anyone who has "faded" away if they are going to return to the meetings, if not, then announce the above.

  Time will tell how the elders use the new information. Of course the Society wants to weed out all the sucessful "faders" by such an announcement. And also they want the R & F to believe anyone announced as no longer being a JW was for *gasp* immorality and thus to be treated like all DF'd people.

  It will be interesting to see how the people are going to respond to this control issue.
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  Jehovahs witnesses

  by marcus26 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

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  what do you believe.i am a christian and i am not going to have a go at you and hope that i dont get banned from this forum.but you see i have questions.. 1.

  1915 and 1975 you proclaimed the end of the world was comeing.in 1915 you lost 3 quarters of your following.explain if this is true.. 2. you do not allow blood transfusions i understand.this is written in the watchtower magazine i suppose.where in the bible does it say this.. 3. if someone leaves you.why do you try to break all contact with this person.i have known families splitting up over there beliefs.. 4. who makes translations of your bibles.. i am not claiming you are a cult.but i would like to clear up these questions please

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  Joyzabel

  welcome to the board, Marcus.

  But do yourself a favor and look around here. The vast majority of us are XJWs.

  ps, I think JWs ARE a destructive cult.
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  Flat Stanley UPDATE

  by Princess in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i spent some time volunteering in rhys' class this morning.

  his teacher very excitedly showed me a large package from country woman....full of candy from the netherlands!

  she was amazed at the great cards branda sent along with the candy as well as some maps of her area.

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  Joyzabel

  Silly, Elsewhere, you have to PM me your addy. Then I can send him on to you.

  But he has already been to Texas. I don't mind sending him there again. Let me know, Princess.

  Joy
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  Flat Stanley UPDATE

  by Princess in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i spent some time volunteering in rhys' class this morning.

  his teacher very excitedly showed me a large package from country woman....full of candy from the netherlands!

  she was amazed at the great cards branda sent along with the candy as well as some maps of her area.

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  Joyzabel

  ok

  Flat Stanley has enjoyed spring break, but got a little over burned.

  Now he's looking to move one. Please let me know who to send him to next.

  Joy
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  thats it! i quit!

  by zev in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yep.....after 22 years, 19 of which i kept "hidden"...... i finally quit smoking!.

  my last butt was on the way to work on monday, valentines day.

  i remember saying to gwen i might bum a couple smokes off her cuz i didnt want to buy a pack and not finish it...i never did.

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  Joyzabel

  Bravo, Zev.

  I'm sure praying to Jehovaher helped you, too.

  Joy
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  Flat Stanley needs to move on!

  by bikerchic in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  damn that boy can eat you would have thought he walked all the way from new york his last designation!

  in his defense he's also a worker, he's trimmed our cedar trees, walked the dog, cleaned up the dog's poop, did the dishes (sorry about his arms falling off, they are paper ya know), oh and he did the dishes after he cooked the dinner.........gawd do i really have to part with him?

  all in all he's a great little guy, doesn't talk much, is very well behaved and doesn't take up much room either, so anyone interested in having flat stanley be a guest please pm me with your addy first to reply is the winner but get in line for the next designation after.. here is the original link explaining all about flat stanley: .

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  Joyzabel

  Tell Rhys that Flat Stanley is on his way to spring break!!

  *wondering if I should send a Keg to the kids with all the bikini post cards or just be good*

  ps, I heard that Valis