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  Freudian slip in this weeks WT study!

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  oh....ok....hahaha...did anyone else pick up on this classic stuff up in the wt for the weekend of 21/22 feb?.

  after speaking about the destruction of sodom and gomorrah, paragraph 6 says:.

  "only lot and his daughters, who stuck close to him, survived".

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  One must wonder how, if he was that drunk, could even perform.

  The sister's cycles must have been in synch too.

  It's in the Bible, it must be true.
  
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  Psychology Today - interesting articles about Cult Leaders and Predators in clergy or organization positions

  by wannabefree in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i stumbled upon some articles in psychology today written by joe navarro, an ex-fbi counterintelligence agent.. this one talks about predators as priests or clergy as well as in other organizations and why they are attracted to it .... https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/spycatcher/201404/why-predators-are-attracted-careers-in-the-clergy.

  this article talks about identifying dangerous cult leaders ... how many characteristics do you see in some of the gb leaders past and present?.

  https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/spycatcher/201208/dangerous-cult-leaders.

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  Oubliette, thanks for posting the concluding comments. I thought that was quite telling too.

  How many points out of 50 does it take to qualify as cult control? JW certainly can be identified to some degree with most of those characteristics.

  I think the problem is, as long as you have freedom of religion, which I guess is a good thing, JW's will for the most part be left alone to do what they wish. JW's aren't going to cause a revolution. They aren't going to take sides in politics. They will for the most part be honest and peaceable tax paying citizens. They will continue to destroy lives with depression and under achieving ... and unlike Rutherford, they try to keep a fairly low profile.

  Most people know JW's as those neighbors who's religion is a little odd but are good neighbors. Nobody cares about a cult like this other than a mother who's child gets taken in and won't come home for Christmas anymore.
  
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  CO has been coming to my door. Would like 1 or 2 solid and easy arguments.

  by The Laser Viking in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am 6th generation.

  i have been out for a few years.. back story on the situation:.

  i had a co come by while going door-to-door in the neighborhood.

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  ditto baldeagle
  

  You can perhaps find a more diplomatic way of using breakfast of champions' solid easy arguments, but that is really the way to go if you want to remain in the shadows.

  The C.O. is trying to engage you in dialogue, do not engage.
  
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  Psychology Today - interesting articles about Cult Leaders and Predators in clergy or organization positions

  by wannabefree in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i stumbled upon some articles in psychology today written by joe navarro, an ex-fbi counterintelligence agent.. this one talks about predators as priests or clergy as well as in other organizations and why they are attracted to it .... https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/spycatcher/201404/why-predators-are-attracted-careers-in-the-clergy.

  this article talks about identifying dangerous cult leaders ... how many characteristics do you see in some of the gb leaders past and present?.

  https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/spycatcher/201208/dangerous-cult-leaders.

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  Wouldn't it be great to have somebody like this observe one of AMIII's talks and then report what's going on with his body language?
  
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  Psychology Today - interesting articles about Cult Leaders and Predators in clergy or organization positions

  by wannabefree in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i stumbled upon some articles in psychology today written by joe navarro, an ex-fbi counterintelligence agent.. this one talks about predators as priests or clergy as well as in other organizations and why they are attracted to it .... https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/spycatcher/201404/why-predators-are-attracted-careers-in-the-clergy.

  this article talks about identifying dangerous cult leaders ... how many characteristics do you see in some of the gb leaders past and present?.

  https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/spycatcher/201208/dangerous-cult-leaders.

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  I stumbled upon some articles in Psychology Today written by Joe Navarro, an ex-FBI counterintelligence agent.

  This one talks about predators as priests or clergy as well as in other organizations and why they are attracted to it ...
  

  https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/spycatcher/201404/why-predators-are-attracted-careers-in-the-clergy

  This article talks about identifying dangerous cult leaders ... how many characteristics do you see in some of the GB leaders past and present?

  https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/spycatcher/201208/dangerous-cult-leaders
  
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  Your body of elders - were they liberal, conservative or moderate?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in my first kingdom hall, the elders were ultra conservative.

  our presiding overseer used to be a zone overseer.

  the second hall i was in was moderate.

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  In the two bodies I sat with, most were liberal to moderate ... however, there was at least one conservative that would bring out the rule book when he felt the need. One conservative and a rule book trumps a majority or moderates, if not, Mother's representative will set it straight on the next visit.
  
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  A sensible fix for the Jehovah's Witness "two witness rule" when dealing with child sex abuse

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  jehovah's witnesses could retain their two witness rule for internal judicial.

  congregation matters .

  but in the case of a child abuse allegation they should .

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  What they do is what the law of the land requires. The lawsuits brought against the Organization are from decades ago for the most part. Because laws vary from state to state, they are instructed to call Watchtower legal ... even if there is only an accusation by a single individual. Elders are then instructed to comply with the law for their particular area, no more and no less. This clearly isn't for the protection of the innocent, although it may provide more protection than years gone by, it is a protection from future litigation for the corporation.
  
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  New "I'm an ex-Mormon" video ... could easily fit a JW

  by wannabefree in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  check this one out and share with your jw friends if you can get away with it.

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-1ibfy2tou.

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  Another new one ... these are such great tools.

  My wife is uncomfortable with them, she has caught on to my gig.

  I played this for my daughters today and they liked it.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_8lnHMuphw
  
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  Will my inactive JW bring our children up as a witness?

  by stevepill in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have been with an in active jw for 6 years, she now wants to marry and have a child, will she want to bring a child up as a witness, she says not but any experiences?

  will she start go back once we are married?

  (i'm a non jw)

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  Stevepill, you seem to be a little indecisive here.

  What do you want in the relationship?

  What are you worried about?

  Stand your ground, man up.

  JW is not just a religion, it is an identity. It is based on fear, guilt, promises never realized, it runs deep.  Your girlfriend clearly struggles with the JW identity.  Whether she is living it or not, it is her foundation and until that foundation is recognized as flawed by her, anything else in her life is built upon it.

  She has two failed marriages as it is.  She needs to address her issues and until she is willing to take an honest look at her foundation, she will only address symptoms.  Major events in life will cause her to reflect on the indoctrination and may very well drive her back to the religion at some time.  Even if it doesn't, she will always have difficulties if she believes that it might possibly be The Truth.

  When she has her own kids, even if she was willing to sacrifice her own life and ignore her faith, she won't be willing to let her kids die at Armageddon.  If she believes the religion, she will want to return to it because in her mind not doing so would be a death sentence to her children.
  
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  New LDC Meeting KH Video

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  been away from the site for a few days...because i have been busy getting these!!!!!!

  (pixel, thank you!

  ) they did not make it easy, plus technical difficulties.. for the main attraction:.

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  You could possibly upload the video to rutube and put a link on youtube.