Posts by tec

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If there's anything that convinces a Christian the Bible isn't infallible...

by ilikecheese in

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friends

it's got to be reading the old testament.

that is some messed up sh!t.. .

your choices are basically to think it's based on things that happened but men's version of events, there is tons of allegory, that it's just a bunch of made up nonsense, or to rip those parts of your bible out and pretend they don't exist.. .

tec

I would suggest that you re-read my post, bottom of the first page. Because being alive and being a spirit (as God is, as angels are, as Christ is)... is not the same symoblic thing that you are trying to pass it off as being. Christ is ALIVE. Same as God. Same as angels. I doubt you would also say that someone who hears from an angel is a spirit-medium, as countless people do in the bible. Or that someone who hears from God is a spirit-medium. Neither is someone who hears from Christ.

Peace,

tammy

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If there's anything that convinces a Christian the Bible isn't infallible...

by ilikecheese in

jw
friends

it's got to be reading the old testament.

that is some messed up sh!t.. .

your choices are basically to think it's based on things that happened but men's version of events, there is tons of allegory, that it's just a bunch of made up nonsense, or to rip those parts of your bible out and pretend they don't exist.. .

tec

That is getting to be a pretty old accusation Cofty and I have already shown you how it is baseless; even dictionary definitions do not agree with you. So either you don't care what the truth is as long as you get to sport your continued accusation, or you truly cannot see what the truth is in this matter. I even asked you if you once thought then that the apostles who heard the spirit must also be spirit mediums, or the prophets must also be spirit mediums, etc... and you refuse to answer the question. I imagine the answer would simply reveal what I stated above about your former faith, or reveal that even you know that you are making a ridiculous accusation.

I do not intend to continue THIS conversation that has been done so many times before. People have read it before, we have had it before... and those who may not have seen it can look up the definition of a spirit medium themselves.

Christ is not dead, but living. Not in a symbolic way; not 'sort of' living. Not as a modern 'ghost'. Spirit is his 'species' for lack of a better word. Just as God is spirit... and HE is not dead; just as angels are spirits, and THEY are not dead.

Peace to you,

tammy

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Prayers that God answers. Any examples?

by punkofnice in

when i believed in god i tried not to pray for anything selfish.. after a while i began to think that a lot of things i was asking my imaginary friend in the sky for were selfish for some reason.. i do not ever remember a single thing i prayed for ever being answered.

if there was the appearance of an answer it was because i did mental gymnastics to make it fit the delusion that god had actually answered me.

there was never an obvious message/answer from god.

tec

I am not suprised that you get nothing from those words, Cofty. But that is really not on me.

Peace,

tammy

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Prayers that God answers. Any examples?

by punkofnice in

when i believed in god i tried not to pray for anything selfish.. after a while i began to think that a lot of things i was asking my imaginary friend in the sky for were selfish for some reason.. i do not ever remember a single thing i prayed for ever being answered.

if there was the appearance of an answer it was because i did mental gymnastics to make it fit the delusion that god had actually answered me.

there was never an obvious message/answer from god.

tec

The Truth about God. The Truth about anything really... simply the Truth. But certainly the Truth about God. See Christ, see God. Know Christ, know God. I even put examples in brackets above.

Peace,

tammy

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If there's anything that convinces a Christian the Bible isn't infallible...

by ilikecheese in

jw
friends

it's got to be reading the old testament.

that is some messed up sh!t.. .

your choices are basically to think it's based on things that happened but men's version of events, there is tons of allegory, that it's just a bunch of made up nonsense, or to rip those parts of your bible out and pretend they don't exist.. .

tec

You can call it woo if you want Cofty, but if the living and speaking Christ is not also what you believed (and heard) and witnessed to as the former christian you claim to be, then at least you can never again use the excuse that you once had the same kind of faith that I have.

Besides all that... asking for ears to hear and eyes to see... are from Christ. His own words. The prophets heard. Those who belonged to Christ heard. (and there are plenty of examples of it that are written) So what does it matter to me that you mock me for having faith in Christ and what He taught and said, and that others taught and heard as well? Reveals more about you... and who it is you truly fight.

Peace,

tammy

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Prayers that God answers. Any examples?

by punkofnice in

when i believed in god i tried not to pray for anything selfish.. after a while i began to think that a lot of things i was asking my imaginary friend in the sky for were selfish for some reason.. i do not ever remember a single thing i prayed for ever being answered.

if there was the appearance of an answer it was because i did mental gymnastics to make it fit the delusion that god had actually answered me.

there was never an obvious message/answer from god.

tec

Just some things to consider, Kate:

If God did not care, he would not have sent us His Son, so that we could know the Truth, and so that we could have life (as well as heal people; forgive people; speak up for the downtrodden and overburdened; free people from men who 'lord themselves over them'; etc... God is shown to us in Christ. Christ is the image/reflection/truth of God. And Christ cared.)

Peace to you, and you too, Punk!

tammy

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If there's anything that convinces a Christian the Bible isn't infallible...

by ilikecheese in

jw
friends

it's got to be reading the old testament.

that is some messed up sh!t.. .

your choices are basically to think it's based on things that happened but men's version of events, there is tons of allegory, that it's just a bunch of made up nonsense, or to rip those parts of your bible out and pretend they don't exist.. .

tec

A, the bible is not one book with one author. So one book can be inspired, one book might not be inspired.

B, the bible does not claim to be infallable... just the opposite, it speak of the 'lying pen of the scribes... that has mishandled the law; as well as Christ also says, 'woe to you SCRIBES'

C, not everything attributed to God, was actually from God

D, interpretation and translation from language to language, after thousands of years, is an ongoing issue (and another... 'woe to you scribes')

E, Christ is the Word of God, and the Truth; and the one we are to listen TO. If anything is in conflict with Him, then listen to Him. THAT is what God has commanded that we do.

God (or Christ now) does not need a book to communicate. God and Christ are spirit, and communicate via the spirit within us also. Unless man does not have the faith to hear (ears to hear/eyes to see), and himself relies upon what he sees (the written word). And that is fine. But the prophets and the brothers of Christ did not have communication with God or Christ via the bible, but rather via the spirit, and direct communication.

Do not allow the bible to become more important than Christ. Christ is the image of God, as well as the Way, the Word, the Truth, the Life. Nothing and no one else.

Peace to you,

tammy

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Why do Jehovah Witnesses hate when you bring up going to Jesus?

by sheila wright in

tec

Why do Jehovah Witnesses hate when you bring up going to Jesus?

Because that is not what THEY do OR what they preach. So someone else stating to do this, as God commanded, as Christ also taught... reveals that they are not listening to Christ or to God, and are not from God, and are not teaching as Christ taught, or as God commanded.

God said:

"This is my Son, whom I love. Listen to Him."

Christ said:

"Come to ME..."

"I am the Truth and the Life."

There is ONE mediator between man (not some men, while other men have some other mediator, but simply, "man") and God. That is Christ. There is no one between man and Christ unless man, himself, allows someone to come between him and Christ. In which case, they have union with someone OTHER than Christ.

Didn't Jesus say come to me all who are toiling, take my yoke and learn from me for it is light and you will find refreshment for your souls. People have this understanding that you can't go directly to Jesus, you have to go through men, particularly the Watchtower Society. And they are hiding the fact that they believe that Jesus is not your mediator, only theirs... They are trying to take Jesus' place and slide right on his throne; OBEY the faithful and discreet slave HA! What a ploy!

Well said.

Peace to you,

tammy

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Punk wishes you a Happy New year!

by punkofnice in

jw
friends

....well...that's it really.. i left jwn a few months ago but did say i'd pop in.. i hope you are all well!.

regards paul.

tec

Happy New Year Punk!! Good to hear from you!

Peace to you and your gf,

tammy

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Out of the mouths of babes

by dissonance_resolved in

since i started my fade, i've been really worried about my kids being taken to meetings by my husband and continuing to be indoctrinated.

i guess i needn't have worried, though, the wt is digging their own grave for me.

below is verbatim my young daughter's notes from a recent meeting (though names have been changed):.

tec

That's really cute. (both the OP AND the 'why can't they keep their eyes closed' comment.... and SO true, lol)

Priorities: Billy, pop-tarts, cookies ; )

Peace to you and yours,

tammy