So do you disagree with ALL organized religion?
tootie
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Back. and seeking ideas for screwing over the memorial
by Sirona inok. me and friends are going to attend a memorial on 30 march.. what would be the best way to get our message across?.
should we just throw a hundred flyers into the hall in the middle of the memorial?.
should we drink the wine and eat all the bread and then stand up and say something?.
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Sitting on the Fence....to believe or not to believe, that is my dilemma.
by tootie ini was raised by a "strong" jw single mother.
she was very very strict but i loved her then and always will.
after the death of my mother i waivered back and forth with my spirituality only because this was my first chance of "freedom" and being in the world to do things that i never really got to do.
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tootie
I really agree with what Cameo-d said
Sometimes the best we can do is just to weed out the lies and things we know that are NOT truth.
I feel this way about the JW's and when I visit other religious organizations or have religious convo's with people. There is a lot that I agree with, but then there are other issues that I just don't agree with.
@ Weeping....no I am no longer married. My husband died. My husband was raised "in the truth" just like me and we were df'd before we got married for screwing before tying the knot. (It was around that time before I got df'd that I started having my doubts). My husband always was a 'rebel and looked at as being crazy or a loose screw" to many of the friends (althogh they weren't incorrect in their views) LOL
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Sitting on the Fence....to believe or not to believe, that is my dilemma.
by tootie ini was raised by a "strong" jw single mother.
she was very very strict but i loved her then and always will.
after the death of my mother i waivered back and forth with my spirituality only because this was my first chance of "freedom" and being in the world to do things that i never really got to do.
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tootie
Okkkkkkk.....
@ Cofty that is exactly the part about the organization that I have been struggling with for YEARS now. Up until recently when I started visiting other churches and having indept convo's with coworkers who are really into their churches, I never even knew that "worldly" people believe and knew the bible as I had been taught all my life. I thought what they said was real, that only the JW organization has the truth. I believe they have the truth, what they believe makes a lot of sense compared to some of the crap I have ran across in talking to other people. but I do not belive that they hold a monopoly on it.
And I'm new to these type sites, so please don't laugh at me...what is the BORG? :-)
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My Dad died
by aquagirl inmy dad,an elder for 25plus years,concentration camp survivor,the works,died in a few weeks ago.i am df'd but have been the only one who helps him and my mum.my jw sister couldnt give a rats ass about them.i was at my mom and dads house after he died,helping my mom with everyting,hell,id been there for 2 months because i was afraid to leave them alone.i knew my dad wasnt feeling well.guess he was worse than i realized.he died.the witnesses came in droves.small kitchen.im sitting at the table.they not only didnt speak to me,but they didnt even acknowledge that i was in the room,about day 3,i stopped answering the door..one "lady" called.sister carol.when i answered the phone she hesitated and said",now you know,i caint tawk to yew"{strong southern accent.ala elie may clampett}"you orta let cher mawma ainser the phone.
"i told her to bite me and hung up on her...same here,when we got back home.i hate these people with the fury of a thousand suns,but for some reason,i am now in possession of some great elders notes.been laying low,but im going to start posting the juicy stuff.just cause itd be nice for calvin to know that he was seen "dancing recklessly" at a wedding and that sister renee was being councied for her weight and still insisted on gaining more.also that sister e wasnt giving her husband his "due"..{yik}and that certain concetration camp survivors were being coerced into saying that they were jw's at the time of incarceration.but one wouldnt.my dad refused to play their game,and as a result he was asked to step down as an elder at age of 80.that and that he refused to shun me.his notes have been very enlightening..nice folks thise jw's,no?
they were so mean to my dad, he really believed this crap,and tried to do the right thing.but because he wouldnt dance their way,and turn me,his favorite person{and he was mine|into the cold they treated him badly and mocked him and even his accent.i hate them.really.any ideas?the local elder here,just asked my mom about her financial situation...grrrrrrrrrrrrr.
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tootie
I'm sorry for your loss. I was DF'd when my mother was sick and dying. Most of the friends in my area were polite and respected the fact that I was my mothers sole care giver and that I was still human with human feelings even tho I was DF'd. Then on the other hand I can recall a few ASSES who came to the door to see my mom and just stared at me when i opened the door. No hello's is your mom up for visitors or anything. They just stared and then tried to just push the door open to move past me. I firmly pushed back and let them know my mother was asleep. They could see the rage in my face and the disgust. That ASS never showed up again. I'm sorry you had to deal with that. I just don't believe in some things. What, just because you are DF, you are not supposed to have feelings? C'mon. They greet and console complete strangers who they do not know who may have lost someone. So why can't they show the same love and compassion to someone who is DF'd. It should not matter. All that should matter is that this is a fellow human that GOD has created and he/she is hurting and as a so called Christian, they should want to help.
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Sitting on the Fence....to believe or not to believe, that is my dilemma.
by tootie ini was raised by a "strong" jw single mother.
she was very very strict but i loved her then and always will.
after the death of my mother i waivered back and forth with my spirituality only because this was my first chance of "freedom" and being in the world to do things that i never really got to do.
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tootie
Yes, I hate to lie. That’s why I have a problem being "in the mix" with the JW's but I don't really believe as many of you do on here that they are the Devil and a cult. I mean, sometimes I wonder, but I guess I'm not that far out yet that I have started to hate them are believe it is a lie. I just feel that maybe they are not the only ones with the "key" to the truth....that’s all. I still believe that there are legitimately still some loving and sincere people within the organization who really believe this is the truth and are trying to be good Christians. I just don't think they are the only ones in the world with the knowledge and insight. That’s all.
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Sitting on the Fence....to believe or not to believe, that is my dilemma.
by tootie ini was raised by a "strong" jw single mother.
she was very very strict but i loved her then and always will.
after the death of my mother i waivered back and forth with my spirituality only because this was my first chance of "freedom" and being in the world to do things that i never really got to do.
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tootie
I was raised by a "strong" JW single mother. She was very very strict but I loved her then and always will. After the death of my mother I waivered back and forth with my spirituality only because this was my first chance of "freedom" and being in the world to do things that I never really got to do. Ended up disfellowshipped me and my husband for fornicating before we were married. We worked to "come back" and after about 1 1/2 we were back inactive. Since then I have battled with my decision to go back or just make the best of my life apart from the friends. This is all I have ever really know, so to be apart from it completely is scary for me. But at the same time I have lost the desire to really be apart of it all. I still go to Sunday meetings once or twice a month and I try to make at least a day or two of the Conventions and special events etc. but I do not comment, go in service or associate with the friends because I feel like I really don't belong. But when I really sit and think about officially leaving I feel like I mite be opening myself up to more problems since we are taught that Jehovah will take his spirit away from us if we leave him. I am just on the fence. I don't know which way I want to go. Has anyone else felt like that before? Even some of the discussions on this site make me wonder if I should really just stay with them because I feel bad about some of the negative comments. Is there anyone on here that does not "hate" the JW faith but they just feel that there is life beyond the organization, because that’s where I am. I don't want to speak negatively about it, but at the same time I don't really want to be apart either. I guess that just because I want to do things that they don't except.
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How do you handle JW encounters?
by Girlie inso this past saturday, i stopped over at my parents' home to take care of some business.
as my brother dropped me off in front of the house, lo and behold, the witnesses from my previous congregation were parked right in front of my parents' home.
damn..... they were in a car group working a frequent rv who lives next door to my folks.
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tootie
Well, I have been in an inactive status for about 5 years now. I won't act like I never go. I go maybe one or two Sunday's a month (during a good month) But I know what I feel inside, and I know the life that I lead is sooo contrary to what a real JW is supposed to be. So when I see them I feel awkward. I get the smiles and the hugs and the inquiries as to where I've been. I have an aunt who occasionally sends me letters in the mail trying to encourage me to come back. I have little kids so they always try to make it about them, you know.. " You don't want to see them destroyed". I HATE those conversations. I hate to run into them. Even when I do go, I am out the door as soon as they say AMEN. I guess I am still in limbo. I'm not sure what I want to do. I feel guilty when I'm in their presence, but then I feel guilty visiting sites like this too. HELP!!!! Has anyone been like me?
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living apart from the world
by looloo in"living apart from the world" is a phrase used by jws to proove that they are "different to other faiths and therefore "right" because jesus said true believers would have "no part of the world" but as a study i never thought they did "live apart from the world as they would go out for a drink, to see a show (performed by worldley people ) go on holidays , claim benefits , work with worldley people / go to school etc when you were jws did you actually feel you were no part of the world ?
i think the amish and the flds really do "live apart from the world " but your average jw probably hasnt even heard of them !.
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tootie
I've always always understood that it meant showing that we were no part of this world by not being "overly" involved in the "things of this world". But acknowledging that we still have to live within the world and make use of the government and authorities that have been allowed to be in their "relative positions" by God. Also, if we lived seperate in a JW community, we would not be able to "rub shoulders" with the world and "let our light shine" to be able to spread "The Truth" to others.