Posts by MrMonroe

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The new brchoure

by Sabin in

the gestapo body, brought out a brochure, i believe it was called return to jehovah.

in it they gave 3 reasons why some-one left the borganization.

if i remember 1 was because the person is angry at some one in the cong, or something along those lines.

MrMonroe

I've seen the cover of that brochure a few times on Facebook posts, but never read any of the text. What a putrid little piece it is.

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Geoffrey Jackson's father

by One_day in

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hi everybody, does anybody know if geof jacksons father is still alive?.

i wonder if he would dare return to australia again, maybe for his funeral?.

MrMonroe

He was in Toowoomba, Queensland, and this was in the Toowoomba Chronicle a week or so ago.

http://www.thechronicle.com.au/classifieds/ad/2328261/

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More Conditioning in Sunday's Watchtower

by Socrateswannabe in

have you read the article, "this is our place of worship" in the july 15, 2015 study edition of the watchtower?

it is the study article for this coming sunday.

note the brainwashing techniques they're using to condition the jws to a total takeover of their kingdom halls, in the excerpts below.

Don't mean to be a party pooper here, but as far as I was aware, congregations did not make decisions themselves to build Kingdom Halls and did not do the planning or construction work on their own. Decisions were obviously made at a branch level based on CO or DO recommendations; I don't know who applied for local authority planning permission, but the regional building committees then probably took over the task of funding and actually building the premises. Yes, they relied very heavily on volunteer labour and donations from local congregation members, but those local JWs had not actually caused the hall to come to be.

In that context I don't think it's unfair or inaccurate to say the WTS "provided" the halls and I can understand why the WTS would feel some proprietory interest in them.

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What is the most bizarre counsel you received as a JW, from a JW?

by Funchback in

there were many addressed to me.

for example, i once had a sister tell me i was gambling because i liked playing skill crane (the machine where you have to try to pick up prizes like stuffed animals) at the arcade.

i then fired back a her: "you saw the r-rated movie 'backdraft.

MrMonroe

I was in a car with my JW girlfriend; a single brother was in the back seat. I was playing a mix tape on the cassette player and The Smiths' "What Difference Does It Make" came on. When it got to the line "The devil will find work for idle hands to do" he suddenly said, "Can you turn that off please. It's singing about the devil." Um, as the Kingdom Songs did also?

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Mystery of the ' Strange Couple '

by Esse quam videri in

this strange couple was seen on main st. in vancouver, b.c.

a casual observer would be hard pressed to figure out their relationship.

the man seems a little young for the woman.

MrMonroe

Any time I've seen those carts, the JWs are parked a discreet distance away, looking quite nonchalant. And it always makes me think of spiders hiding not in their web but under a nearby leaf.

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1975 all over again!!!

by John Aquila in

wt study edition jan. 2015.

here is the bait:.

as the number of kingdom proclaimers increases and as we near the end of this system of things, there is an urgent need for more facilities.

MrMonroe

I just blew it off, I knew they were wrong. Strangely I don't feel that sure this time.

Violias, what you need to recognise is that the JW concept of Armageddon was constructed by Joseph Rutherford out of a grab bag of OT and NT scriptures that suited his own tastes for divine revenge on those who didn't swallow his interpretation of a jealous, punitive God. Russell's view of Armageddon was quite different and it was no more or less logical or scripturally accurate than Rutherford's version ... or indeed a version created by you, me or Billy Graham.

For proof of this, track down the book "Counting the Days To Armageddon" by Robert Crompton; it's an excellent forensic examination of how the whole JW system of dates was developed -- dates arbitrarily chosen, then later abandoned. What today's JWs have ended up with is a system that works for them today, but could be abandoned just as easily as the old chronology beliefs were. I swallowed it all when I was a JW without checking anything. I believe in God, but I now I have no belief in any Armageddon brought on by God. That fear has gone.

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www.jwawoken.com

by awokenjw in

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i am a new member to this forum.

i am a current jw who is currently struggling to leave or stay, depends on how you want to look at it.

i have created a new blog, www.jwawoken.com to allow me to have an outlet for the cognitive dissonance in my brain.

MrMonroe

Welcome. Like you, i found it very beneficial when I was reaching the end of the road with the JWs to write a lot of stuff down and apply some thorough reasoning. I find it interesting every now and then to go back to what I wrote at the time.

Be aware, though, that it is possible for people to trace the owner of a website domain name. That means that if some JW is nosy enough, they can find who you are, which could lead to you being called before a judicial committee. Sounds paranoid, but it has actually happened.

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PDF of Advice for Kingdom Publishers (1939)

by MrMonroe in

i'm hoping to obtain a copy of the 1939 booklet advice for kingdom publishers.

it's a 16-page booklet that was written, i understand, to help us publishers as they embarked on the very vigorous witnessing campaigns that were largely aimed at provoking police and governments to take action against them.

i'm particularly interested in what specific advice they were given about creating or avoiding situations likely to result in their arrest.

MrMonroe

Atlantis and others, many thanks. That's perfect. What a community we have.

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Did anyone see Jackson state "celebrating Christmas not a df'ing offence"?

by Crazyguy in

i have seen posts on several you tube sites stating that jackson said during his rc testimony that jw's don't shun, celebrating christmas is not a disfellowshipping offence, birthdays are ok and ones doesn't have to agree with jw doctrine.

i have read most of the posts on other threads while and after his testimony but never read any of this?

did he really say these things or is someone on the net just stirring up some bs?.

MrMonroe

Question: "They would be found to be in transgression of the rules, would they not?

Jackson: That is not my understanding.

Even if the JWs decided celebration of Christmas was effectively a voluntary disassociation, Jackson was still lying. And he knew he was.

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PDF of Advice for Kingdom Publishers (1939)

by MrMonroe in

i'm hoping to obtain a copy of the 1939 booklet advice for kingdom publishers.

it's a 16-page booklet that was written, i understand, to help us publishers as they embarked on the very vigorous witnessing campaigns that were largely aimed at provoking police and governments to take action against them.

i'm particularly interested in what specific advice they were given about creating or avoiding situations likely to result in their arrest.

MrMonroe

Thanks Doug, this seems to be something similar to the Organized to Accomplish Our Ministry books that came later. I think the "Advice" booklet was more specific to the context of witnessing in the face of persecution in the US and Canada.