Very grateful to 3Mozzies for uploading this.
Interestingly, a couple of years later Channel 9's Sunday program did a follow-up, finding some of those people in better spirits, but other victims ... and an organisation just as smug and arrogant.
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'Silent Witnesses' - JW Pedophilia (Australia) *VIDEO*
by 3Mozzies inthanks to mr monroe, i was able to upload this video from 2002.. .
http://vimeo.com/25581273.
'sunday' reveals the extraordinary story of how the jehovahs witnesses in australia routinely cover up cases of child abuse in their ranks and obstruct police investigations.
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September 15 WT Same old, Same old.
by Slidin Fast instartfragment.
these paragraphs once again promote the gb/writing commitee to the status of god.
they also blatantly reverse the meaning of acts 17:11 by selectively quoting it, missing out completely the phrase 'as to whether these things were so".
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MrMonroe
Luna2, I know what you mean. An elder's daughter, who'd always been a bit rebellious in her younger days, had a baby and was discussing with my wife the challenges that would arise eventually over birthdays and Easter etc. My wife said, "Well, it's a decision we all have to make about whether we pull our kids out of the room when they're singing 'Happy Birthday' (we didn't). She replied, indignantly: "No way. There's no question. If the organisation says we shouldn't do it, then we don't! If the organisation told us to jump off a cliff, we'd do it, wouldn't we!"
My wife didn't quite know what to say. Scary people, some of them. Really worrying.
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September 15 WT Same old, Same old.
by Slidin Fast instartfragment.
these paragraphs once again promote the gb/writing commitee to the status of god.
they also blatantly reverse the meaning of acts 17:11 by selectively quoting it, missing out completely the phrase 'as to whether these things were so".
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MrMonroe
Probably discussed elsewhere, but another couple of points:
Page 29: Although in Korah’s eyes it was aged Moses who was making day-to-day decisions, it was really Jehovah who was directing the nation. Korah lost sight of that fact and consequently failed to show loyalty to those whom God was using. How much wiser it would have been for Korah to wait on Jehovah for a clearer understanding or for adjustments if those were really needed. So in the end, Korah destroyed his record of faithful
service by his prideful actions! That account provides a serious warning for elders and others in the congregation today. Waiting on Jehovah and following directions from those appointed to take the lead requires humility.The Jews in the wilderness had a few subtle signs that God was with them and using Moses (parting of the Red Sea, the Ten Commandments, turning bitter water into sweet, water from a rock, budding staff, manna from heaven ....) the Governing Body has ... anyone? anyone? anyone? Oh, that's right, they just tell JWs God is using them. So therefore they must be obeyed.
Page 22: In addition to “everyweight,” Paul mentioned putting off “the sin that easily entangles us.” What might that be? The Greek word translated “easily entangles” appears only once in the Bible, in this verse. Scholar Albert Barnes observed: “As a runner would be careful not to encumber himself with a garment which would be apt to wind around his legs in running, and hinder him, so it should be with the Christian, who especially ought to lay aside everything which resembles this.”
Just a thought here: could the "sin that easily entangles us" also involve pride and the demand to lord it over others? Could it be that the Governing Body has fallen into the human trap of wanting to dominate the faith of others, telling them they can only please God by first pleasing them?
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When You Left The "Truth" Were People Shocked?
by minimus ini faded and when witnesses realized i had abandoned the faith, they were shocked!
no one would've ever believed that i would've left!
no one!!
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MrMonroe
Friends of ours in Brisbane were shocked and dismayed when we stopped going to meetings. No one here in Melbourne seemed to show any interest. A friend met one of the closest friends of my wife's at a DC in Brisbane and gave her the bad news ... and she cried! Did that "close friend" pick up the phone and ring my wife to ask her what's going on, do we have any problems? Weirdly, we've never heard a word from her. Not a thing. Another of my wife's close friends (her bridesmaid at our wedding) would also obviously been told ... and again, not a word.
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Why are WTBTS headquarters moving out of Brooklyn?
by BoleynGirl inaside from the economic incentives, has the wtbts actually said why they are moving the headquarters to warwick, ny?.
is there any sort of official statement re: reasoning?.
are they suggesting this is part of the "preparation" for the big a - when nyc will clearly be destroyed, and so jehovah won't have to squint and pick out the jws in brooklyn in order to avoid them when hurling the fireballs..
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MrMonroe
Funny! I like your reasoning!
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A SISTER IS AFRAID SHE WILL GET MARKED
by minimus inyesterday, a friend told me that she has been secretly dating a non- witness.
she plans on marrying him and will tell about her relationship only after she is married.
she is worried that she will be marked.
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MrMonroe
I just LOVE that word "fornication". they do request a meeting and ask if any "fornication" occurred.
Where else in the world can one refer to sex only as "fornication"? It makes it sound so dirty, like a disease. It's a phrase so heavily laden with Amish-style 1800s atitudes. Even when otherwise normal, modern adults in the congregation talk about people being DFd, they always lower their voices, glance around, and mutter, "I think there was fornication involved."
Chaperones, "a view to marriage", self-abuse, "committing immorality" ... what are some other of those quaint Victorian-era WT phrases and attitudes?
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"JW" Says Donor Organs Cause Personality Changes (and other nonsense) on TV!
by mummatron inhttp://www.4thought.tv/4thoughts/0354-derek-house-should-organ-donation-be-made-compulsory-.
4thought.tv asks if organ donations should be compulsory.
derek house is a jehovahs witness who believes an organ transplant could lead to the recipient having a change of personality.. this was on tv here in the uk this week.i couldn't believe my eyes and ears when i saw this!note the comments - many of them are defending jws saying he can't really be one.
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MrMonroe
Still doesn't work in Australia.
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Little Do Non-JWS know but that is God's plan: Destroy the governments and put jws in charge
by blondie inhere is a tidbit from our convention here in amarillo .
this is not a. spoiler.
the item was included in our closing talk and related to the entire.
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MrMonroe
It's the sort of thing a bored city council bureacrat might have said in an offhand comment after touring the printing press, scrambling for any comment or compliment.
Just how much his innocuous comment "Hey, we better watch out, with this sort of micro-management you'll be running the country soon!" was brushed up and rewritten by writing committees before being excreted at a DC is another thing.
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Awesome quote from the Watchtower!
by TimothyT ini found this awesome quote from the book captives of a concept:.
beware of "organization.
it is wholly unnecessary.
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MrMonroe
A comprehensive article on the split is at Wikipedia here.
It was a very nasty business, where Rutherford began imposing his own harsh personality on the Bible Student movement. If there was such a thing as a faithful slave class or governing body at the time, he very clearly ignored and overruled both in order to get what he wanted.
The WTS has never been able to explain that ... and continues to denigrate as "ambitious" and "cunning" the majority of the WTBTS seven-man board who wanted Rutherford's feathers clipped.
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Little Do Non-JWS know but that is God's plan: Destroy the governments and put jws in charge
by blondie inhere is a tidbit from our convention here in amarillo .
this is not a. spoiler.
the item was included in our closing talk and related to the entire.
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MrMonroe
I think any organisation or government would long for a membership that was so compliant and obliging, willing to work so hard for nothing but the promise of a future reward.
But of course the only organisation that could achieve that sort of work ethic, combined with absolute obedience, is .... a cult.