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  My brand new Greek Bible!

  by Wonderment in

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  i just received my brand new greek bible:.

  = the holy scriptures - new world translation.

  why bother?

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  J. Hofer: what's your background on the greek language?

  I have a self-taught working knowledge of it. I believe anyone with some effort and discipline can accomplish a lot.
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  My brand new Greek Bible!

  by Wonderment in

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  2. bible

  i just received my brand new greek bible:.

  = the holy scriptures - new world translation.

  why bother?

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  The Kingdom Interlinear Greek NT is translated directly from the Wescott and Hort Greek Text. All other editions of NWT into other languages are translated from the English edition.

  That said, I have found that there is enough leeway for the NWT translation teams to incorporate variant readings to those of the English edition. Whatever system they use, they are aware of many technical issues of Hebrew and Greek text readings as they go along, and sometimes choose one of those "original" readings instead of the English base whenever it is practical to do so. This subject has been controversial in this board, but what I stated is what I have experienced by doing comparison discoveries.
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  My brand new Greek Bible!

  by Wonderment in

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  2. bible

  i just received my brand new greek bible:.

  = the holy scriptures - new world translation.

  why bother?

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  I just received my brand new Greek Bible:

  Η Αγ?α Γραφ?—Μετ?φραση Ν?ου Κ?σμου = The Holy Scriptures - New World Translation

  Why bother?

  First of all, it is one more addition to my collection of bibles. Secondly, there are times when I like to compare the NWT in different languages, especially Greek. I like to compare the Modern Greek translation with the original English one, and to the other Greek WT Bible, Kingdom Interlinear. Also, at times I like to compare the Septuagint with the NWT Greek of the OT. I find it interesting.

  There are many who believe this often made charge that the WT people have no capability to deal with Greek. I don't know about you, but I don't buy into that accusation at all.
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  Breath of fresh air: humanity from the Watchtower

  by sabastious in

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  just got paid a visit by one of my family members.

  she stops by my house every time they work my territory to see how i am doing and to take a peek at the little guy.

  she's a hard core dub and she's been pioneering for many many years.

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  sabastious:

  You are one fortunate guy to have a family member visit you after having knowledge of your stand.

  May I make a suggestion, i.e. if you haven't done it yet?

  Make sure you show your appreciation somehow... like sending her a card of good will. Or, just send her a note saying Hello!, and that you are thinking about her and her close ones. Or, whatever seems best since you know her well enough, without touching the WT doctrinal divide.

  Cheers!
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  Could you eat breakfast after watching this at Bethel?

  by Dogpatch in

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  this is a partial video of the morning breakfast table in brooklyn bethel in the late 80s, with lyman swingle hosting... the governing body member who at first tried to shelter ray franz from disfellowshipping, but then within a year or two his spirit was broken and he was a bitter man.. randy (i was there and it was death-dealing, like the death eaters from harry potter!).

  address of windows media file if you don't see anything:.

  http://www.randytv.com/swinglebreakfast.wmv.

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  What I find surprising when looking at this video is the lack of vitality in them all. They look scared, lifeless. They certainly don't look like "the happiest people on earth" as the WT claims. Do they?

  Where is the holy spirit in these people? Godrulz will have a feast day if he watches this video.
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  "Dub"ble Standards!

  by sabastious in

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  3:8; it-2 pp.

  whether the wrongdoer is weak or wicked.. weakness is not synonymous with repentance.. (w95 1/1, pp.

  wrongdoing.

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  I see a difference in tone. It is obvious the WT does not want "appointed brothers" to lose their position unless they "should" because of a "scandal" in the congregation.
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  Biblical expertise of the GB and WT writing committees?

  by IsaacJ22 in

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  i was just wondering if i'm correct about something; namely, that the society's leaders don't appear to know much about the bible from a secular, scholarly, or historical perspective.. i've seen quotes posted here where they claim you don't need to be an expert to interpret the bible's true meaning.

  that's not exactly encouraging.

  but does anyone know much about their real world, practical knowledge of the bible from a non-religious perspective?.

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  What many don't seem to realize when the subject of WT writers comes up is that there is a dichotomy (division of two parts) between the Governing Body (GB) and the actual Writing Staff. Most GB members are not scholars per se, though some participe as contributors in some articles. The bulk though is done by the Writing Staff which is composed of better abled writers .

  However, the Writing Staff is severely handicapped by the GB. Otherwise, we would see more scholarly articles. There are some within the Writing Staff competent enough for that. But the GB don't let them work to their potential. It's all about control, more than trying to impress the world with their info.
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  Is this Stupid or is it Just me?

  by Kensho in

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  2. beliefs

  check it out, i played with the band today (all brothers) at the hilton resort by the pool, nice gig but the mother of a 12 year old came up and asked us to sing happy b-day to him, wow very awkward the brother she approached said 'why don't you sing it to him" and shoved the microphone in her face, she refused about 4 or 5 times and was very frustrated we would not sing as this is a really common request of bands.

  she was really put on the spot, so she did it and we just stood there, thank god the crowd joined in singing.

  when it was over the brother turned to one of the band members and said we should remember to bring the b-day music on mp3 to play when this happens.

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  Yes, Kensho, it is stupid, but that is what happens when we mortgage our mind to a religious entity.

  In fact, the bible points out that when a Christian can't decide whether things are right or wrong without the help of others, it is a sign of christian inmaturity. (Hebrews 5:14)
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  Democrat or Republican? Does it matter?

  by Wonderment in

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  election year is approaching.

  are we ready for the political campaigns?

  for those who vote, does it really matter whether we vote democrat or republican?.

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  I use to remember the good times of the 1960s. Fuel was low priced. The amount of mortgage and rent percentage-wise per householder was much lower than it has been since then, states had enough money to cover expenses and have money left. Health premiums were low and hospital care was easy for anyone to obtain without going through a screening process for financial ableness.

  Then President Reagan put deregulation at the forefront as the savior of ills, and most administrations since then have followed some of those flawed policies, resulting in the financial meltdown of 2008. Now, everyone pays more than we need to. The country is broke and sustaining wars based on credit. We all are paying for those policies, and barrels of oil are being toyed with for financial gain. The states have no money for road construction, bridge maintenance, education and health support.The judicial and the criminal system with its many prisons do not work. Immigrants have become the scapegoat of our frustrations, and most people in this country don't have the guts to do what other people of other countries often do, that is, protest loud and clear, make politicians pay for their greedy behavior and upturn policies.

  We have not learned from Iceland's troubles when deregulation was implemented bringing the country down financially and otherwise.

  In the financial meltdown of 2008, some of the criminals of the largest financial institutions walked away with millions and millions, and we had to bail these companies out. President Obama in his campaing talked about having those responsible for our country's financial mess pay for their criminals activities, but nothing has been done. In fact, Obama hired some of the same people responsible for this mess, back into his administration. It seems like a case where "if I can't fight them and win, I might as well join them."

  Back in the 1960s, there were only a couple of hundred lobbyists in place. Nowadays the number is somewhere around 40 thousand and growing. The real name of lobbyists are bribers. And it is legal to lobby (bribe) our legislators. What a mess! It matters little whether they are democrat or republicans. They have sold out our country to corporations who would sooner pollute our land than do what it is right. The 2008 financial fiasco will happen again because nothing is being done to change the status quo. The question is not if is going to happen, but when.

  Don't be fooled into thinking this is a democracy where people rule. No sir! The Fed Bank does and the Corporations behind them do. This is more of a plutocracy or oligarchy than a democracy at play. They bought Congress a long time ago, and they are not ready to relinquish power without a big fight.

  Have any of you seen the movie INSIDE JOB?
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  Democrat or Republican? Does it matter?

  by Wonderment in

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  election year is approaching.

  are we ready for the political campaigns?

  for those who vote, does it really matter whether we vote democrat or republican?.

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  Election year is approaching. Are we ready for the political campaigns?

  For those who vote, does it really matter whether we vote Democrat or Republican?

  Corruption is so rampant... should we engage in politics and still be Christian? What is your take?