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  What JW catch phrase DRIVES YOU NUTS!!!!

  by megaflower in

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  "we should be mindful".

  grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

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  inculcate....gives me the heebie jeebies
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  Apostate Brainstorming Session

  by AllTimeJeff in

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  i have been meaning to bring this up for a long time.. sometimes, i think we (former jw's) who are very rightly concerned about all the lies of the governing body have some great ideas about how to expose jehovah's witnesses.. some of us have very passionate and distinct ideas.

  not a few of us have websites with our own personalities evident.. i don't wish this to get personal.

  even if i disagree with some presentations or rhetoric of some, i know that it is sincere.

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  Hi Jeff, I'm really new to the realization that my disillusionment with the WT society has turned me into an apostate - 30+ years of indoctrination with that word being such a profanity and equated to the lowest form of human life is taking a while to rub off. I'm coming to terms with it pretty quickly though! That having been said, websites like this are certainly doing their part to lift the veil off of the JW's and at least getting people to think. I believe that by living our lives as good 'worldly' people who help others with no agenda, and do everything possible to influence others to do the same, we can help to change the perception that only those who have 'the truth' show love to our neighbors and are happy people. I know that this is an extremely idealistic and possibly very naive sounding concept but I do believe that it certainly can't hurt. I feel very strongly that negativity in any form breeds negativity and I agree with other posters who feel that contributing to JW's delusions of persecution only feeds their fire and solidifies the belief that prophesy is being fulfilled through them. Kill them with kindness, I say!

  Of course, I've had juicy fantasies of staking out KH's, following people home and creating a 'territory map' to knock on their doors with some wonderful new truths but...I don't know...they'd probably go into halloween mode and not answer.
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  Wouldn't the death of three suffice?

  by AK - Jeff in

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  why would a so-called 'loving' god put mankind through millenia of time, untold suffering, death to billions of mankind, all over the sin of a naked lady eating an apple without permission?.

  how could his need to 'fulfill justice' or whatever theological argument is presented to justify such time to pass before correction - ever equal the pain it has forced mankind to endure?.

  why did he not just kill one man, one woman, and one snake-imitating fallen angel - wipe the slate - and start fresh?

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  It's the inconsistency that throws the theology out of whack since god had no moral issue committing genocide with the flood, then using his 'people' to follow that bloodthirsty example and destroy entire populations including children...so glad I don't believe in this stuff anymore but it's still great fun to dissect!
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  Catch me up, what's happened in the past 17 years?

  by restoretherepublic in

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  hola,.

  i left the wt 17 years ago and haven't looked back.. what have been the biggest changes, manipulations, doctrines,.

  lies, etc., of the watchtower organization in the past 17 years?.

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  poopsiecakes

  Hi and welcome!
  
  ...rofl at sacolton. Now that's some interesting new light!!
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  Teachings

  by poopsiecakes in

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  these are things i always had a very hard time explaining and believing as a jw:.

  birthdays whether at school or at work, this one was really tough to explain to a non jw.

  i mean seriously, makes absolutely zero logical sense...salvation it was very hard to wrap my head around the idea that a loving god could destroy billions of people; and this, after reading the ot and the many baby slaughters therein...smoking say what you will about this unhealthy habit, making it a dfing offence because of dubious ties to spiritism??

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  Hi choosing! SO true on all points, but how could I forget the flood thing and beards?? I have a fondness for men with facial hair - my ex husband used to grow his beard on vacations and when we got home he'd keep it as long as possible but the inevitable talk on the school would force him to shave it off; always a day of mourning for me. As for the flood, I mean really...there are new species being discovered all the time even now so that must have been one hell of a boat (unless they evolved...hmmm)!
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  Teachings

  by poopsiecakes in

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  these are things i always had a very hard time explaining and believing as a jw:.

  birthdays whether at school or at work, this one was really tough to explain to a non jw.

  i mean seriously, makes absolutely zero logical sense...salvation it was very hard to wrap my head around the idea that a loving god could destroy billions of people; and this, after reading the ot and the many baby slaughters therein...smoking say what you will about this unhealthy habit, making it a dfing offence because of dubious ties to spiritism??

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  These are things I always had a very hard time explaining and believing as a JW:

  1. Birthdays – whether at school or at work, this one was really tough to explain to a non JW. I mean seriously, makes absolutely zero logical sense…
  2. Salvation – it was very hard to wrap my head around the idea that a loving god could destroy billions of people; and this, AFTER reading the OT and the many baby slaughters therein…
  3. Smoking – say what you will about this unhealthy habit, making it a df’ing offence because of dubious ties to spiritism?? A tenuous stretch at best, and health reasons don’t wash either, considering the business McDonalds rakes in from them…
  4. Women – I could never make a logical argument why we were not allowed to give talks, but we were allowed to give talks sitting down talking to another woman while working on the same public speaking points as the men who at least got to stand up. How is this not teaching??? Oh, and the skirts rule always pissed me off too because there’s no way to logically (or biblically) explain it…
  5. Baptism of minors – I was 17 when I got baptized and done with high school, there was no way I would consider it before. When I was still a JW in my early 30’s, I was railing big time against 10 year olds being baptized and used as examples on the platform or in the WT. I refused to clap and made a point of folding my arms. (and yes, 17 is a minor but it’s not 10!)
  6. Animals – why would animals be created with defense mechanisms against predators if there were no predators prior to Adam’s sin? Was there more creation? Did these animals evolve? You see the problem and it was always a head-scratcher for me.

  Things I’m ashamed to admit I accepted without really thinking about:

  1. No Blood – I was really good at this one. I could have people at the door or at work convinced that this was absolute truth; first using that one measly scripture, then the AIDS scare was a positive boon. I did however, have a hard time with people who were df’d making a big deal about not accepting blood for religious reasons – I felt it was a bad witness.
  2. 607 – Good lord, I had no idea about ANY of that being disputed in scholarly circles and preached 1914 like a good little soldier.
  3. Organ transplants – I knew about the flip flop but did not consider the ramifications until I was well out of the snare.
  4. Disfellowshipping – This one hurts me the most in that I truly thought it was the only real way of distinguishing the true from the false religions. How sadly misguided, and how I dutifully did my part in shunning close friends who needed love and support through difficult times makes me hang my head in shame.

  There are many more, but these are the ones off the top of my head. I’d love to read what anyone else had tr
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  Wow

  by brainwashed-from-birth in

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  i ran into an ex jw i used to babysitt when i was a teenager.

  that really makes you feel old, you know :-) anyway i invited her over for some coffee and we got talking gossip of course.

  she was in for several years after me and was filling me in on all the juicy stuff i shouldnt care about :-) .

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  Hi B-F-B, I agree with everyone else and think that if you snitch you'll end up regretting it later. Even in my agnostic state, I still try to live by the golden rule and as hard as it can be to apply it to those who have done you wrong, you feel much more at peace. It's sooooo frustrating to see rampant hypocrisy and judgmental attitudes and while it's certainly not unique to JW's, we who have taken the blinders off see it very keenly in that organization. The hardest thing is to not become that way ourselves toward those still under WT control. I get the sense that your love for your brother is still very strong and I believe the best thing you can do is to always think from that angle.
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  Photos: Paradise Earth Unmasked - how it will really be in the new system

  by kurtbethel in

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  the watchtower publishes corny pictures about the new systemtm that are well known, but the prophets over at popular mechanics have channeled images from the future and i am pleased to present what one can really expect if they survive armageddon.. so fasten your seatbelts, hold on tight, and here we go.. .

  field service in paradise will be a challenge with so many people slaughtered.

  and the survivors living so far apart.

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  LOL - this is priceless! Great job, now I have to clean my keyboard from the spewing wine....it's all good though! hahaha
  
  I especially love the caption 'let's abolish stupid speed limits' - not really related to paradise earth but hear hear!!!!!!!
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  Hello

  by poopsiecakes in

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  Zid - those are awesome! giggle giggle
  Mouthy - I love your spunk
  Heaven - great new word for the urban dictionary, is Jehovan there yet??
  Robdar - fingers crossed for the future and well, poopsiecakes just sorta happened...at least it's a screen id nobody else has
  FindingMyWay - great story, great truth in your post and thanks so much for the kind words and positive outlook
  
  One philosophy that I have tried very hard to live by is the law of attraction and that you create your own universe by thought and then action - it's so powerful to tap into the possibilities that open up by thinking positively, letting go of guilt, resentment (still working on that one) and negative feelings - just doing good to others for the sake of doing good and because I want to help, not because I want to slip a tract or a WT into their hands. I feel so good about life when I focus on thinking that way. I hope to share many positive things here with you all as time goes on!!
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  Greetings

  by AggieNostic in

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  first new topic for me.. i have observed this site for about 4 years.

  haven't been to a meeting since oct 2005. definitely feel jws are a high control group that mirrors many of the definitions of a cult.. i was raised as a witness since age 5, left at age 38, now 43. happily married to a wonderful woman for 24 years, except for 1 year of separation when i was failing miserable in a search for my true self - hard to do when you were completely sucked into this religion.

  yes, i was a true believer pretty much up into my late 30s.

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  Hi Aggie - welcome and thank you for sharing your story with everyone here. The similarity of what people coming out of this religion have suffered never ceases to amaze me...different people, different lives, different details - same result. I share your agnostic bordering on atheist views, once you start realizing 'absolute truth' is a house of cards, everything starts to crumble and you start wondering if ANYTHING you believed had any real merit.
  Keep coming here and telling us your stories!

  Peace.