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  ALL JW's to be at the meeting this week...

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  we asked this person if it could be aqbout the terminology change and they said that was already read last week...... we remember the last time they did this.

  got everyone all excited thinking the big "a" was coming and all it was about, was the literature would now be donated instead of charging for it.. .

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  JeffT

  "Don't put colored paper in the fax machine."
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  Is North Korea starting to prosper?

  by fulltimestudent in

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  dr leonid petrov (one of my former teachers at sydney u) notes that there are increasing signs or prosperity in nk.

  in the mid 1990's the dprk population suffered from an aggravated famine that was likely linked to an industrial collapse.

  western trade embargoes probably made the situation even worse, but since the administration would not reveal information, it may be a long time before we know the details.. but strangely, there seem some to be some increasing signs of prosperity.. .

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  JeffT

  There are new high rise apartments in Pyongyang, and more modern cars on the road

  I count all of five cars in that picture. I suppose that if there weren't any a couple of years ago, that is a big increase percentage-wise. Makes me wonder what the inside of those buildings look like.
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  DEEP SH*T. . .but interesting sh*t

  by Terry in

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  think of greek philosophy as rock n' roll.. .

  there is still classical music, but, rock and roll overtook and dominanted popular tastes and changed the marketplace.. .

  now, think of hip hop in relation to rock and roll.. .

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  JeffT

  I think I need to listen to some Pink Floyd at full volume.
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  Syncis....sounds like another MLM scheme

  by whathehadas in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my sister who is 26 and a jw, recently quit her job to join this "company" that helps people invest for retirement.

  she has a masters and was working in education.

  now she's sold on syncis.

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  JeffT

  OneGen, did they say anything about recruiting your friends and making money off what they sell? If so you're right, its an MLM. If not, they're just obnoxious sales people. If its and MLM, I think the SEC will be after them shortly.
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  22 questions from creationists to evolutionists, taken from the Nye/Ham debate

  by adamah in

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  here's 22 questions asked by creationists of evolutionists, on the night of the nye/ham debate: we've got alot of people who can help these creationists out, right here on jwn, so it seems the neighborly thing to do, right?.

  http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/messages-from-creationists-to-people-who-believe-in-evolutio.

  i'll take the easy one..... #22: if we come from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?".

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  1 yes

  2 no

  3 yes

  4 no

  5 light obeys the laws of physics

  6 they don't

  7 what about it?

  8 science

  9 yes, by chance

  10 OK

  11 some of us don't

  12 not true

  13 they are two different things

  14 go find out what "scientific theory" actually means

  15 see above

  16 um, look around

  17 what purpose do you serve by just thinking whatever somebody else says to you

  18 same reason we've only found one of you

  19 yes

  20 I think about stuff more than you do

  21 read more about the Big Bang theory, then come talk to me

  22 same reason your parents didn't disappear when you descended from them

  There, I think that covers all of them.
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  Syncis....sounds like another MLM scheme

  by whathehadas in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my sister who is 26 and a jw, recently quit her job to join this "company" that helps people invest for retirement.

  she has a masters and was working in education.

  now she's sold on syncis.

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  JeffT

  I took a few minutes looking at their company website. I don't think its an MLM, its just a marketing group. All of their people seem to be paid on commission, which means there financial advice will be based on what is best for their commissions. And if they run off with your money you may or may not be able to get it back from Syncis, minus what you pay a lawyer.

  Bottom line: you could walk into your bank and get a better deal. If you really want to save for the future, look up a good certified financial planner.
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  Was There ANYTHING The Watchtower Taught You That Benefited You?

  by minimus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  besides learning how to speak publicly, has the watchtower given you any benefits?

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  JeffT

  Somebody asked Thomas Edison about all the things he'd tried to build that didn't work, did they make him feel like a failure? His reply "I'm not a failure, I've proven that thousands of things can't be done."

  Same way with being a witness, I learned that all kinds of things are really bullshit. That all became the motivation for the bad guys in two novels I still hope to get published.

  I did quite smoking due to the influence of JW's, and I met my wife through friends at the KH.
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  Mormons = Anyone Aware of This?

  by Joe Grundy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  anyone aware of this?.

  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/10619538/head-of-mormon-church-thomas-monson-summoned-by-british-magistrates-court-over-adam-and-eve-teaching.html.

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  Are they going to drag in the Queen and ask her about the teachings of the Church of England? I'm no fan of Mormons, but they are entitled to teach what they want.
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  Theism Makes Science Impossible

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
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  it is not impossible to be a great scientist and a theist - kenneth miller and francis collins are good examples.. however, science depends on methodological naturalism - a working assumption that there are natural causes for observed effects.

  please note that methodological naturalism is not the same as ontological naturalism.

  in other words scientists may believe in a spirit world or not as long as god is never invoked as an answer.. contrast this with theism which, unlike deism, declares god to be immanent and active in the world.. consider a scientist who is also a theist doing research into the efficacy of a new drug that cures heart disease.

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  JeffT

  Now when he collates the results of the trial how does he factor-in the answers to prayers?

  He doesn't. If he's doing real science its a double blind trial and he doesn't know who was treated with what.
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  If You Got a Call or Visit From The Elders How Would You Deal With Them?

  by minimus in

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  just curious..

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  JeffT

  Can't imagine it happening, I've been out since 1988.

  If they did want to chat, I'd be happy to talk to them. I would start by making it clear they have no authority over any part of my life and I do not consider myself in any way obligated to do anything they say, nor am I obligated to answer questions that I don't regard as their business. And if they say anything in public about our conversation that maligns my character, I'll sue them personally, since they aren't clergy and are not corporate agents, at least that's what they claim when it's convenient to the WTBS.

  Now what did you want to talk about?