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  Would Witnesses REALLY drink the "Kool-aid" if the faithful slave told them to? Yes or no?

  by Witness 007 in

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  2. experiences

  a "spiritual leader" tells his followers the must put on rebok running shoes and "drink the cool-aid" to join a ufo in the tail of a comet and "go to a better world" so, afew dozen young people do just that to get "beamed up" to the mothership.

  heavens gate cult 1990's.. my mother says "she is faithful to the organisation till her death" which makes me wonder if they ordered a mass suicide like the reverend jim jones did to escape a "great tribulation"....how many witnesses would really drink the cool-aid?...

  without a gun pointed at their head of course!.

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  There is constant praise and biblical comparisons heaped on those who have died for their faith, whether it be because of the blood doctrine or political reasons. They become the organization's modern day martyrs. Also, I am still in and I can attest to the fact that there has been a lot of emphasis in the past few years about being loyal and submissive to the organization even when they ask you to do something you don't agree with or understand. So, while I agree that I don't think they would ever do something as radical as asking people to drink the Kool-Aid, I do believe that there are many who, though conflicted would ultimately do it.
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  The Wedding Talk-A Humiliation to Women

  by WalkTall in

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  2. friends

  it is so strange how you look at things so differently when your eyes are open.

  i recently went to a witness wedding and listening to the talk with the constant emphasis on the bride having a 'head' and being submissive to her head was painful to listen to.

  and how the bride has to say 'deeply respect' while the groom does not, is the epitome of misogyny.

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  It is so strange how you look at things so differently when your eyes are open. I recently went to a Witness wedding and listening to the talk with the constant emphasis on the bride having a 'head' and being submissive to her head was painful to listen to. And how the bride has to say 'deeply respect' while the groom does not, is the epitome of misogyny. It made me think about all the 'worldly' relatives that came to my own wedding many years ago. What they must have thought about me that I would submit to such a blatant degradation of my gender. I am embarassed now just thinking about it.
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  Where's Shawn Colton and Goldensky?

  by awildflower in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i haven't heard from them in a while.

  i've missed paulfromcleavland too but he said he was going on a trip.

  hello to you all if your reading this.

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  Hey awildflower, I am still here. Just haven't been to the board to much lately. When I have my alone time, I have been reading COC. I'm loving it and can't wait to start in on Ray's second book. I check in on the board quickly when I can. When I can't for a while, I realize how much I miss all my friends here. Strange I feel that way...I don't know any of you personally (except you, awildflower, of course), but I consider all here my friends.
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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 04-18-10 (SWORD OF THE SPIRIT)

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  skillfully wield "the sword of the spirit" .

  understand the meaning of a scripture correctly, we should consider background information, such as who wrote the.

  then, explain the meaning of that part of the.

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  Context is becoming a big issue lately (could it be as a response to what's written on this board and others?). It is featured in this article and during our last CO visit he mentioned in one of his talks about the dangers of taking scriptures out of context. Of course, it's all a smokescreen. There could be no WT doctrine without cherry picking scriptures out of context.

  Also, if the JW's stopped for one second to consider the real history and actual 'real time' intentions of the bible writers, the fantasy applications of the WT would seem ludicrous. Even in this article, when it keeps talking about Paul handling the 'word of truth', the WT wants to make the false association that it is the same Bible that is sitting on their laps. But what did it mean to Paul? What was he really referring to? They quoted Gal 5:13 where Paul spoke about being freed from the Law. The gospels hadn't been written yet. He couldn't have been referring to his own letters. So what was the 'word' that he was talking about? I can guarantee that not one person in the KH asked themselves those questions, while at the same time they were raising their hands commenting how advantageous it is to study the history and background of a scripture. Most of them don't have a clue. They are trained to stop thinking things through.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses---A Religion That Does Nothing For Anyone

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the reality is: jehovah's witnesses benefit no one but themselves!.

  they don't contribute to society.

  they refuse to get involved in local interests because that would constitute violating their neutrality.. if sexual abuse allegations are made amongst their members, unless two witnesses can attest to the molestation, they refuse to get the "superior authorities" involved.. they claim to be doing their neighbors a "life saving" work but the reality is that they simply are pests to their "householders".. they are a tax free "religion" and they do not pay taxes.. they are judgmental people and regard the "world" as "worldly" and in the "power of the wicked one".. and if the individual members do not conform to the organization's dictates, they might very well be "shunned" and regarded as "dead".. why anyone would want to be a jehovah's witness is beyond me..

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  I know of a young brother once who wanted to help out Habitat for Humanity. He was told by an elder that he would have to do research first to make sure there was no religious affiliation. Who else, but JW's would care about that? Even if it was associated with a church, it is the poor and disadvantaged that benefit from this volunteer work, not the church.

  I think it is that mentality that many are speaking against here. Yes, many JW's contribute to other charities, but it is not encouraged, and if too much time were to be spent in volunteer activities, you would be considered spiritually weak. It is one of those subliminal thoughts that the Society plants into our heads. I remember the first time I gave $20 to a cancer drive, I actually felt guilty about it. Part of me knew it was ridiculous to feel like I had done something wrong, but it is just one of their many mind games.
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  What Actually Helped You Leave The Organization?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after seeing some threads about how some think that being direct (like danny hazzard) is the best way to get people out of "the truth" or being very subtle is most effective----i was wondering what exactly made you leave the organization??.

  were you more impressed by websites that were informational?

  what really got you thinking to leave the religion and its mindset?.

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  No wonder they hate Ray Franz. Knowing how many people he has helped leave the organization, they must regret the way they treated him and wish they had a do over. Too late now!!
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  International Conventions = $$$$. WTBT$ in bed with South Korean government

  by Mattieu in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i remember the whole process of selecting a host city for australias last international convention.

  the australian bethel played the nsw government against the victorian.

  it was so similar to choosing an olympic city and the big boys from bethel knew how to play the game.

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  I could never figure out why the international convention prices were so high and an elder (who has connections to Bethelites) told me that the prices are padded and the Society uses the extra money to send the missionaries to the conventions and back home for visits. Incredible, the WT pays for nothing out of it's own coffers!
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  Open Letter To Jehovah's Witnesses

  by cindalmiller in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  you may not remember, but i know you very well.

  i met you a long time ago when you came to my house with your smiling faces, your neat clothes, and your soft voices, and a bible tucked neatly under your arm.

  you told me many beautiful stories of a "paradise earth," and a "righteous new system" which would be established shortly.

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  Amen, cindalmiller, Amen.
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  What was your initial reaction to finding out the religion is a cult?

  by make yourself in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  mine was filled with shock and anger but mostly anger.

  it made me feel that way because i have never been lied to like that growing up in the religion with it being all you know.

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  Did you ever see one of those movies where the thief must get through the invisible security to get to the priceless gem. You can't see the trap surrounding the gem until you use special lighting and then all the lines are exposed. That's what it felt like to me. I was inside the trap all along, I just never saw it. Sometimes I felt the discomfort of being confined but I didn't know why. Then, when I found out the truth about the 'truth', it was like that special lighting came on. Suddenly I saw how trapped I was. Nothing really changed, but I knew, I could see the obstacles encasing me. Problem is, I'm still trapped inside.
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  Legal Department....

  by on the rocks in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just curious to know how big is the legal department in brooklyn??

  is it headed by a gb member...how much influence they have over the teachings of the society?.

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  I heard once that the legal department is the biggest department at Patterson. They take up the most square footage. Not sure if that's true, but I'm thinking it was a Bethelite that told me that. It was a while back though.