Wow, Vita! In reading your post I found the anger welling up in me immediately! You are so right! I've seen many of these things happen and feel that it is so wrong for the organization to be so controlling. Why can't people just live and let live for God's sake?!
Posts by JBean
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Twisted Thinking
by Vitameatavegamin inhello friends!.
you know, i have been inactive now for about a year.
and so many of my so called friends now have nothing to do with me.
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Here's a crazy thought
by JBean inin reading recent threads from scumgrief and yoyo... they are happy and active and are defending the organization.
i just had a thought of what jesus said that in coming to him and the truth, one might lose brothers or sisters or mothers, etc., but in doing so, they would gain him and an abundance of other "family".
(paraphrased of course!
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JBean
In reading recent threads from Scumgrief and YoYo... they are happy and active and are defending the organization. I just had a thought of what Jesus said that in coming to him and the TRUTH, one might lose brothers or sisters or mothers, etc., but in doing so, they would gain him and an abundance of other "family". (Paraphrased of course!) Now, when someone becomes a JW, they don't necessarily lose family members or friends. Their families and friends might think they've become a bit 'batty', but they are usually (may happen in some cases) never shunned. Now, when someone chooses to leave the JW's... NOW we're talking major losses! These souls DEFINITELY lose their relatives/friends... even if they still love God and Jesus. So... I'm not drawing any conclusions here... but I'd love some thoughts on this. Are we meant to make our way OUT of the Borg and TO Jesus? SO what is the truth? (Am I making any sense here??? I hope I typed this correctly!) : )
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active and happy jw
by scumgrief ini am an active jw and was raised as one.
i have been watching the site for a while and thought it could benefit from the opinions of someone who is happily a member of the jw's.
i will not get into any argumets that lead to nothing except name calling, and will not talk with anyone who is just plain mean (plenty of them in here).
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JBean
Welcome aboard SG! I was a newbie not too long ago... and am still in. I'm just wondering what brought you to this board, and then what prompted you to write? You say you're happy... but you obviously are curious. What sparked your curiosity? I know what sparked mine... the folks in the congregations I'm associated with have gotten meaner and angrier (and more strange) as the years go by. They are absolutely the most hypocritical individuals I've ever been in contact with. Most (not all) seem to feel that because they are baptized, they can say and do almost anything... as long as they don't associate with 'worldly' people. In "closed" groups of Witnesses, I've never heard so much swearing and backbiting. How absurd! Also... once I started reading here, I was astounded at all the supposed lies we've been taught our entire lives! I'm still not ready to make a physical break... but emotionally I'm out. How can a person stay "active" and happy when the organization is FULL of mistakes and falsehoods? It's quite confusing. Hope to hear from you often. --Jbean
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Reasons why its so hard to break from the WTS
by Leander ini'm still sitting on the fence trying to figure out which direction to go in.
i think one of the reasons i have'nt left yet is because of the fact that i'm not entirely sure that the wts is really not god's organization.. some of the reasons why i feel that way is because of their insight on the scripture.
i've never heard of any other religion attempt to decipher the prophecies in the book of daniel and revelations.
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JBean
I've read all of the above comments and thank each and every one of you for your thoughtful, loving concern. Definitely much to think and pray about. --- Jbean
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Favorite Dead Performer
by Yerusalyim inequal time, and given the spirit of the season, who is your favorite dead performer?.
mine, buddy holly, though he just kinda laid there and oozed all over the stage.. yerusalyim.
"vanity!
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JBean
Hands down: John Denver. : )
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Favourite Live Performer:
by Englishman ini've seen loads of live acts, back when i was a "young person asking" i watched the crystals, heinz, johnny kid and the pirates, brenda lee, joe brown and others all on one show.
so very innocent!.
come my eventual departure from dubdom, i resolved to see all these bad people playing their music live.
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JBean
Oh... and another: Prince (yes, my tastes vary!)
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Favourite Live Performer:
by Englishman ini've seen loads of live acts, back when i was a "young person asking" i watched the crystals, heinz, johnny kid and the pirates, brenda lee, joe brown and others all on one show.
so very innocent!.
come my eventual departure from dubdom, i resolved to see all these bad people playing their music live.
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JBean
Who said Barry Manilow????!!!!! YES YES YES! "...& it's daybreak... well ya gotta believe... it can be daybreak... and let it shine, shine, shine... all around the world!" HEEE!
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Reasons why its so hard to break from the WTS
by Leander ini'm still sitting on the fence trying to figure out which direction to go in.
i think one of the reasons i have'nt left yet is because of the fact that i'm not entirely sure that the wts is really not god's organization.. some of the reasons why i feel that way is because of their insight on the scripture.
i've never heard of any other religion attempt to decipher the prophecies in the book of daniel and revelations.
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JBean
Hi again Leander! I haven't been posting much 'cos I usually feel I don't have too much to add. However, I replied to you initially a week or so ago when you first came on board, and I felt that I kind of identified with what you were going through. To give you my perspective on why it's so hard for ME to leave: In my entire life... fear of hurting family and friends and ALSO losing family and friends (just 'cos they leave you, doesn't mean they don't hurt to some extent too). This past month, by postings on this board (believe it or not!)I feel that I've learned more about actual SPIRITUALITY and what it means to feel God and Christs love than I did all the years in the congregation. I'm like you though... still in and totally wondering if and how I'll ever leave. I find myself saying things to my family lately if they are having a problem or whatever, along the lines of "stop worrying about all the RULES... Jehovah knows..." etc. Sorry if this doesn't factually answer your question... but I think it's a very personal decision and reason for each of us. Hang in there... - Jbean
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Feeding the Annointed
by radar inone of the things that often crossed my mind when looking at the watchtower study, was where was this spiritual food for the annointed?.
the whole point of the so called faithfull slave class, is according to the watchtower to feed the "domestics"(annointed household of god).
yet mostly the themes of the watchtowers were for the great crowd.. how many watchtowers do you re-call centred on the heavenly calling?.
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JBean
Why do you think they don't write about the annointed so much anymore?
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New Terrorist Plot!!
by closer2fine indon't go to the bathroom on october 28th.
cia intelligence reports.
that a major plot is planned for that day.
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JBean
Was offline yesterday... have to say this one is priceless! : )