Posts by Fernando

11 - when i learned at a convention that regular family worship is vital for us to survive jehovahs great day......"so, up until family worship evening was invented by the glorious ones, no one had any salvation and a chance of surviving armageddon???????????????.

also - w09 10/15 p. 29 family worshipvital for survival!.

Fernando

I wonder what the Sanhedrin (GB) would do with a totally sycophantic and idolatrous letter along the lines of the OP title.

Please someone write them...

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How exactly you and your income are being affected by inequality.

by cognisonance in

i found this link really interesting: inequality.is and associated with the excellent robert reich documentary: inequality for all.. .

Fernando

Thank you for sharing those links cognisonance.

Some may be interested in this book:

Full description for "The Spirit Level"

It is a well-established fact that in rich societies the poor have shorter lives and suffer more from almost every social problem. "The Spirit Level," based on thirty years of research, takes this truth a step further. One common factor links the healthiest and happiest societies: the degree of equality among their members. Further, more unequal societies are bad for everyone within them-the rich and middle class as well as the poor.The remarkable data assembled in "The Spirit Level" exposes stark differences, not only among the nations of the first world but even within America's fifty states. Almost every modern social problem-poor health, violence, lack of community life, teen pregnancy, mental illness-is more likely to occur in a less-equal society.Renowned researchers Richard Wilkinson and Kate Pickett lay bare the contradictions between material success and social failure in the developed world. But they do not merely tell us what's wrong. They offer a way toward a new political outlook, shifting from self-interested consumerism to a friendlier, more sustainable society.

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If you were on your death bed, what is the ONE thing you would say you have learnt ?

by new hope and happiness in

i think i would say " you can not change others you can only change your self" .

if you cant think of anything what is the next number in this sequence?.

what do these sums have in common?.

Fernando

I am grateful to have learnt much about the liberating gospel of grace and its nemesis religion (legalism, moralism and ethnocentrism).

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Recordings of conventions and co talks

by GoUnion in

are the parts on conventions and the talks given at congregations at co's still under the orders not to be recorded by the members?

i seem to remember an announcement like this when i was in, but i paid very little mind to it.

after learning about some of the more outspoken talks given by co's over the years i was curious what their official reasonings were for these bans.. it seems clear to me though that the ban is simply to give themselves some sort of plausible deniabiltiy and allow the co's to go on their little rants.

Fernando

I believe this (also) happened soon after our family exited on the basis of a recorded talk (given in Australia at a local hall by the COBE) against the liberating gospel of grace, and against imputed righteousness. The apostate ruling religious clergy class and hierarchy hated that we had made and distributed copies, at the beginning of 2010, leaving them no "legitimate" wiggle room, and exposing them as frauds and enemies of God and man.

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Opposing opinions

by GoUnion in

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any current or ex jw knows there is a lot of counsel against association with nice people that do not share your faith.

i think this is very damaging for personal growth, we never really can challenge our convictions, we become stunted in ability to reason and make personal decisions.

this is also why the organization has fought against "higher education" so hard.

Fernando

I find that I have become much more inclusive and can now tolerate almost anything and anyone bar rabid (apostate Watchtower) religion/ists (and their secret yet prolific aberrant behaviour including fraud, rape and incest).

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Discussion with some elders

by GoUnion in

hello everyone just wanted to relate a situation that occurred a few days ago.

so i have quit going to meetings for a few months now based on some issues i have with the explanations of current doctrines.

my wife is none too happy with this but over the last few months we have had some date nights and have tentitively agreed to disagree.

Fernando

In response to your question GoUnion, I would say that at its heart this organisation is indeed inherently evil.

Like all villains it is however well versed in camouflage (to hide what it is) and projection (accusing others of its own crimes).

Psychiatrist Morgan Scott Peck defined evil as "militant ignorance" and characterised it as "malignant self-righteousness".

If you were to make a study of the "Good News" according to Paul and examine the Watchtower organisation in this light, it becomes as clear as day.

You might be interested to do the following searches in the wt library:

- "legalism"

- "learning from an experiment that failed"

These great articles read as if written by Ray Franz.

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Disturbing Footnote in Tomorrow's Study Article...

by HeyThere in

article is basicqlly about families where a spouse is working away from home for an extended period, etc...a foot note says basically that some studies have shown that working away from home can cause serious consequences, such as infidelity, homosexuality, or incest.

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pull it up on jw.org...that is what it says.

Fernando

Blame shifting?

It sounds like they are denying that the toxic spiritual food they feed their followers is responsible for the very outcomes they despise.

No it is the followers' fault bacause of being away from home too long.

Lame and pathetic!

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Thread Envy

by snowbird in

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transhuman mentioned that someone on the board suffers from thread envy.. are you jealous of other posters who just seem to be able to generate responses to their threads?.

lol..

Fernando

And then there's Post Count Envy.