we and our unbaptised children have now been cut off by our last jw family members.
cowardly email at the bottom and my response just below.
sorry it's rambling and probably not the best thing to send, but we are upset and angry.
In our family's case it was a simple question that prompted us to investigate and eventually see just how secretly corrupt the apostate Watchtower organisation is.
Fortunately we weren't told anything specific or negative - just given the opportunity to eventually work it out and see it for ourselves.
my friend was slagging off one of my other friends saying they have been known to say apotate things.
she does apostate things herself without realising it.
she meant well because she fears the word apostate as i once did, but she openly says to me my jc was lacking in holy spirit.. she doesn't have a clue what apostacy really is she just wants me not to mix with ones who have been known said "apostate things".
Their own Bible correctly defines apostasy.
One can search the Bible in the wt library for the following using paragraph scope:
aposta* unfaithful*
One can also search the NWT Bible for:
prostit*
is it normal for the elders in your congregation to spy on you through your wife?
texting her to see whats up with you and what your doing or saying etc.
using her as the in house spy???
According to their own teaching you are the head of the house and all communication should be directed to and through you - no texting or phoning your wife, at least IMHO.
for those of you who have a minute to read this, here is a report from my family trip.. i was in florida for the holidays visiting my older sister and family, along with my parents which were also visiting.. although i've had conversations with my mother about the organization, my sister and her family had no idea of my position in regards to the (un)truth - perhaps because we live far away from each other.
i knew the day was coming.... on my second day there, the whole family was sitting around bs-ing about different stuff, and as usual my mother starts with the "world is getting worse by the day" conversation, followed by approving nods and smart remarks from the rest of the family.
i then politely told them that this was not true, that in fact the world has never been better.
Well done.
What about making them do the hard yards instead next time?
Get them to agree to answer some simple and well chosen questions - and then hold them to it - maybe guiding them to the relevant publication and page.
quite simply, most jw's are scared as heck of ever reading information critical of the watchtower society.
deep down they genuinly fear their 'faith' wouldn't stand it.. ignorance and resisting contrary information is the final defense for jw's.
it is the fall-back position they mentally run to at the slightest bit of criticism.
Great write-up YY2.
"Unity in error" and "unity in ignorance".
The poor, pathetic, slimy, apostate Watchtower.
if i were the all-powerful creator of all the universe it would be a very easy thing to prove my existence, requirements and will in an indisputable and unambiguous way.
everyone would know of my existence and requirements without them having to put forth effort to believe based on limited, ambiguous evidence that is highly subject to interpretation.
i would regard faith as a harmful trait that makes one vulnerable to being deceived.
Religion = faith is a lie.
Belief = faith is a lie.
It was faith (not religion) that gave men like Martin Luther and Nelson Mandela to power to rise above their circumstances and do pioneering things most of us find highly counterintuitive.
i am not.
everyone makes mistakes..
The embarrassing and awkward moments as well as Cognitive Dissonance came to an end soon after leaving the apostate Watchtower organisation. I am proudly exJW - a survivor of a corrupt doomsday cult.
"then there will be a great tribulation, not seen since the beginning of time nor will everoccure again.
im saying,christ was talking about the comingdestruction of jerusalem in the 1st century and not the end of the world but the end of the jewish system of things.
there is no end of the world.
The GT and the big A are worthy topics IMHO.
What I am sure about is that the apostate Watchtower organisation and hierarchy are totally blind to the spiritual dimensions involved.
They are waiting for a singular physical event at a point in the future.
It is quite likely not singular, not an event, not physical, and not in the future.
Could the big A be the longstanding spiritual battle between religion and its nemesis the "unabridged gospel" (or full "Good News")?
At any rate the Watchtower's poisonous fruits (stealing the faith and spirituality of millions, by severely truncating the gospel) prove it is on the side of the "god of religion", and not the "God of Abraham".
*** w90 5/15 p. 6 Armageddon—When? ***
Har–Magedon... denotes a world situation.
my question is about 1 peter 1:11. the 1984 nwt omits the word "christ", beside spirit, although it occurs in the earliest manuscripts: .
11?they kept on investigating what particular season or what sort of [season] the spirit (the reference says: 2 sam 23:2 ) in them was indicating concerning christ (footnote says the spirit of christ which was in them indicated)... .
beside the word spirit, the reference quotes 2 sam 23:2, which says "the spirit of jehovah".
Welcome Westenddave!
Doctrinal bias for sure.
One of many examples.
Great find.
Profound implications.
Every prophet had an intimate relationship with Jesus.
I believe you came accross this for a reason.
Best wishes on the journey.
Many here would be delighted to help anytime - please feel free to ask.
young and shunned xjw singer/songwriter and wife interview.. "blessed feathers:nomadic and loving it" is featured story on national public radio.
(someone make it clickable?.
amazingly open about what happens if you don't follow the leader as a jw--yet without bitterness--this young man tells his story.
A beautiful couple - I wish them a great journey of life and love.
