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  Own up time...

  by Chalam in

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  well it looks like this site is a real melting pot, a broad spectrum of views and beliefs.

  for sure there are many disaffected ex jws.

  so in as few words as possible, preferably not more than one sentence, how would you describe yourself spiritually?

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  Fernando

  Simple Jesus Follower.

  SBNR (Spiritual But Not Religious).
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  Has the Watchtower ever made a correct prediction?

  by Fernando in

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  in 1889 the wbt$ predicts in detail the spiritistic scheming priestcraft it would come to embrace (due to the harlotrous gb's insatiable lust for graven unnatural spiritual intercourse or prostitution with demons):.

  "the underlying principle of the great reformation, to which all protestants look back with pride, was the right of individual judgment in the interpretation of the scriptures, in opposition to the papal dogma of submission to clerical authority and interpretation.

  on this very point was the whole issue of the great movement.

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  Fernando

  In 1889 the WBT$ predicts in detail the spiritistic scheming priestcraft it would come to embrace (due to the harlotrous GB's insatiable lust for graven unnatural spiritual intercourse or prostitution with demons):

  "The underlying principle of the Great Reformation, to which all Protestants look back with pride, was the right of individual judgment in the interpretation of the Scriptures, in opposition to the papal dogma of submission to clerical authority and interpretation. On this very point was the whole issue of the great movement. It was a grand and blessed strike for liberty of conscience, for an open Bible, and the right to believe and obey its teachings regardless of the usurped authority and vain traditions of the self-exalted clergy of Rome. Had not this principle been firmly held by the early Reformers, they never could have effected a reformation, and the wheels of progress would have continued to stick in the mire of papal traditions and perverted interpretation."

  See paragraphs 4-11 at http://www.biblestudents.net/htdb/o003.htm

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  From the 1889 Watch Tower "The Old Theology" Tract No. 3 "Protestants, Awake! The Spirit of the Great Reformation Dying. How Priestcraft Now Operates".

  See dx86-10 list of "Watch Tower Publications" when searching Watch Tower library for "Priestcraft".
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  What is Apostasy?

  by Fernando in

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  2. bible

  has anyone noticed how religionists redefine apostasy so that it can never apply to them?.

  according to religionists an apostate is anyone who leaves the watchtower.. according to god however an apostate is anyone who follows the watchtower.. this is an act spiritual unfaithfulness or prostitution - following a pseudo-mediator or visible golden calf instead of the greater moses namely jesus..

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  Fernando

  If one digs deep enough in the Watchtower library it is hidden there, just search for:

  • aposta* unfaithful* (using both sentence scope, and paragraph scope)
  • prostit* (display most occurrences, and Bible only, see 37 hits in Ezekiel)
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  What is Apostasy?

  by Fernando in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  has anyone noticed how religionists redefine apostasy so that it can never apply to them?.

  according to religionists an apostate is anyone who leaves the watchtower.. according to god however an apostate is anyone who follows the watchtower.. this is an act spiritual unfaithfulness or prostitution - following a pseudo-mediator or visible golden calf instead of the greater moses namely jesus..

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  Fernando

  Has anyone noticed how religionists redefine apostasy so that it can never apply to them?

  According to religionists an apostate is anyone who leaves the Watchtower.

  According to God however an apostate is anyone who follows the Watchtower.

  This is an act spiritual unfaithfulness or prostitution - following a pseudo-mediator or VISIBLE golden calf instead of the greater Moses namely Jesus.
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  Does God require us to "measure up", or is that just another Watchtower lie?

  by Fernando in

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  2. bible

  according to paul no one can, and no one has to.. god imputes a right and clean standing to anyone who follows jesus instead of the watchtower.. any lgbt who follows jesus is 100% right and 100% clean?

  anyone who follows the watchtower is 100% wrong and 100% dirty?

  yup!

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  Fernando

  According to Paul no one can, and no one has to.

  God IMPUTES a right and clean standing to anyone who follows Jesus instead of the Watchtower.

  Any LGBT who follows Jesus is 100% right and 100% clean?

  Anyone who follows the Watchtower is 100% wrong and 100% dirty?

  Yup! That simple!

  (LGBT = Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender)
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  EXCLUSIVE NEW LIGHT! How to calculate the length of the overlapping generations - SCRIPTURALLY!

  by agonus in

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  ok, so the one scripture that supports the "overlapping generations" doctrine is the one about joseph having brothers, right?.

  well, then, logically, if that scripture buttresses the glorious new light - and we know how long that "generation" was - we should be able to calculate the date for armageddon, no?.

  allowing for a maximum period starting with the year of the birth of the eldest brother (reuben if i'm not mistaken), and ending with the year of the death of the youngest (benjamin, correct?

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  St George, just loved your calculation, brilliant.

  Now if you can just add some overlapping gymnastics we'll also vote you genius...
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  Jesus warned us about JWs!

  by 3Mozzies in

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  luke 21:8. .

  american standard version (asv).

  he said, watch out that you dont get led astray, for many will come in my name, saying, i am he , and, the time is at hand.

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  Fernando

  Great posts!

  Hope I didn't miss it in the posts, but even in the NWT there is only ONE "the anointed" in the New Covenant scriptures where the Greek "ho Kristos" is consistently and correctly translated as "the Christ" (ONE person, and not any humans).
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  ACLU v. Watchtower? Help, advice and suggestions appreciated.

  by Fernando in

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  2. scandals

  this email was sent to the aclu today.

  hopefully they are able to respond despite high volume of requests.. ----- original message ----- from: to:[email protected]: saturday, september 03, 2011 10:17 amsubject: west virginia v. barnette (religious freedom).

  louise melling.

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  Fernando

  Aussie Oz - Thank you very much for that. Much better and more credible. Best wishes.
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  Separation of Church and State v. First Reformation - please help

  by Fernando in

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  2. scandals

  i am trying to research and better understand these two concepts from an applied and practical perspective.. any suggestions, ideas and advice on better understanding this will be much appreciated.. my thinking at this point:.

  first reformation - 1500's (religion vs society).

  the first reformation began as an ill conceived attempt to reform the irreformable namely religion.

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  Fernando

  Thanks for the feedback dgp and Band on the Run. Much appreciated. Band on the Run, I will look out for updates incase you have an opportunity.

  Best wishes.
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  Casuistry and Probabilism are words every JW should know

  by Terry in

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  casuistry.

  is reasoning used to resolve moral problems by applying theoretical rules to particular instances, and by extracting or extending theoretical.

  rules from (novel) particular instances.

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  Fernando

  Raymond Franz' troubles began with his objection to this type of thing. He even had the temerity to hide an article on "legalism" in the Awake in 1979 (assumed, given the apparent parallels with his book "In Search of Christian Freedom").

  It is noteworthy that the word "legalism" (self-righteousness attained by following the "right" rules) appears only once in the entire 2010 Watchtower library (besides a second index reference), but 1,780,000 times on the internet according to Google.

  "Moralism" (self-righteousness attained by following the "right" morals) does not appear even once in the 2010 Watchtower library, but 884,000 times on the internet according to Google.

  Only 4 short references to "ethnocentrism" (self-righteousness attained by following the "right" doctrines) appear in the 2010 Watchtower library, but is referred to 950,000 times on the internet according to Google.

  Some of the 39 references to "Gnosticism" (self-righteousness attained by following the "right" knowledge) in the 2010 Watchtower library, clearly do apply to the Watchtower Sanhedrin (Governing Body) and Watchtower Pharisees (ruling religious hierarchy), although the Watchtower carefully avoids making such application. "Gnosticism" is referred to 1,880,000 times on the internet according to Google.

  There are a number of instances of words such as legalistic, moralistic, ethnocentric, and Gnostic in the Watchtower library.

  These are all blatant apostasy (spiritual unfaithfulness or prostitution) according to Paul's often repeated take on IMPUTED righteousness (aka Justification - being declared or counted as righteous on the basis of receiving the free gift of faith, and not on the basis of any supposed merit).

  Watchtower religionists make a practice of ignoring the inconvenient reminder in Proverbs 17:15: "Acquitting the guilty and condemning the innocent--the LORD detests them both".