what i find interesting about this discussion is that the WTS will not accord the same privilege in reverse ... if you say anything against what they say, you're an automatic apostate ... they don't allow apologists working in reverse for the rank and file ...
cheerios
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Last Night's Intervention
by brotherdan ini'm afraid of starting a new post because i've stepped on a few feet here with my last post... but i still love you guys.. last night i went home to find my wife and her friend on the couch with the bible, ready to show me how i'm wrong and exercising "apostate thinking".
my wife said, "i am unable to fight you with the bible because you know more than me about it.
but k** knows more and will be able to show you how you are wrong.. so my wife went into the other room so as not to be stumbled by my discussion.
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An Explanation of why TIME TRAVEL does not work
by Terry inenergy and matter are neither created nor destroyed.. consequently, the building blocks of existence are actually finite parts.. to create things in "tomorrow" which are new, something has to be dismantled to leave spare parts for tomorrow's new thing.. the old thing deteriorates, (dies/disintegrates) and the parts become available to make the new thing.. time travel requires going to a place where today's parts are available to be rearranged.. some of today's things persist as they are, of course.
they only travel through time by persisting as they are.
(mountains, for example.).
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cheerios
dude ... time travel is so possible ... christopher lloyd proved it ... all you need is a flux capacitor!
/rolleyes @ amateurs ...
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Once a cheater, always a cheater
by Quillsky inif you discover, while getting to know a potential partner, that they have cheated on a previous partner........ don't touch them.
run run run.. in my opinion a cheat remains a cheat.
opportunity is the variable.. please discuss..
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cheerios
to make an assumption that someone will do something that they've done before just because it happened before is very shallow thinking indeed.
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Why is god hiding?
by AK - Jeff inwhat god could have done to show himself:.
he could have left incontrovertible evidence of his existence.he could have made it impossibly evident that mankind has been here only 6000 years, not the 200,000 give or take, that fossil evidence supports.
he could have provided evidence through jesus to millions of non-believers, instead of focusing on a small band of fanatical followers eager to point to 'the messiah'.he could at any time, being the ultimate of beings, just simply show himself in the sky, speak to millions instead of to the lonely occasional deluded sheepherder in the desert, or provide miracles to millions of us as observers - part the ocean, cure cancer and announce it from heaven in a clear unmistakable voice, or instantaneously stop starvation and plague in it's tracks.
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cheerios
i've had this same discussion with my dub relatives. if god is really there, why not just say so in a manner that is definitely provable? people would still have the choice of whether or not they would follow him/her. many believe that proof of god's existence is the opposite of having faith, but i do not believe that it is. faith can help me accept something credible that i don't happen to understand. e.g. gravity. i dont quite understand how gravity works, but i can clearly see it's effects, so i can have faith that if i jump off a cliff, i'm gonna go splat.
otho, to say that creation is proof of god's existence, to me, is circular. it is proof that we are here - nothing more. there is no evidence that jehoover created us (or any other god for that matter). the explanation given by a bunch of primitive men who wrote that "jehoober made us and wants us to do all these confusing things that can be taken out of context for non-jehoober sanctioned purposes" and then later were venerated by others: oh it's in this "book" - "see right here it says jehoober created us, therefore he did" isn't proving anything. it's simply their opinion that they wrote down. "oh i was inspired by god to write this" ... really? that's quite a claim to make ... can you offer any credible evidence to support that claim? (because you see many nutjobs make the same claim, so how do we know you're not a nutjob?) "uhh, well if you need evidence, then you suck because a real man of faith doesnt need evidence."
how convenient ...
"oh and by the way, god needs money ... lots of money ... and he doesnt want you to wear beards ... and you have to do all these things ... and if you dont do all these things that these holy dudes in a factory in brooklyn come up with at the drop of a hat, then you get destroyed with all the 'worldly' people at armageddon which is right around the corner, really it is, no this time it is, stop that 1975 business that was your fault not ours, 1986? we didn't say that you did, no it's really close now .. so get off facebook and stop sexting (unless you want to sext to any of us elders - that's okay) and do more stuff for the Holy Factory Dudes or you'll die!"
to put someone's life in the balance for this spooky non-provable circular and definitely exclusive club of "oh we have god's blessing and you dont" way of "revealing god" ... sounds more like a way of controlling people than anything else.
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Does hell exist?
by notverylikely inthread for nasticanasta to have at with proof that it does..
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cheerios
"does hell exist?" ... not the right question imho. the real question is: "what does it matter if it does?"
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cheerios
told him to shove off
was pretty easy actually ...
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"sweet" story from dub land( will make anyone else cringe with horror)
by highdose inwhy take notes at meetings.
a little girl and her family were on their way to the kingdom hall.. half-way into the trip, the little girl shouted: "stop!
" the father asked: "why?
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the funny thing is that the family most likely weren't dubs ... like all these vomitous stories, it was probably pirated from the mormons or something
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Brother "Prince" not happy with "Black eyed peas" swearing at his house! Praise JAH!!
by Witness 007 inso i heard an interview with the "black eyed peas" who mention they jammed with prince at his home recently, only to have one excited member yell to prince....."your the sh#t man!
" well how would a witness react to that????
a staff member later told them prince did not like swearing in his house.
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cheerios
you guys have it all wrong ...
sounds like he's trying out for the gubberning band of perverts body
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FOR THOSE WHO HAVE LEFT THE TRUTH?
by lgadsden injehovahs day comes at this moment and u realize u were in the right place but because of leaving you are now doomed.
would everything gained (temporary) enjoyment worth it?.
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cheerios
If you were for real, you wouldn't talk like you do. My guess is that you are a boring pimple faced goofball who likes to make himself laugh for your own amusement. (i.e. "HAHA! Look! I got apostates upset! LOL!")
dammit jeff! you made me snarf my soda LOL
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Why do Ex-JWs start celebrating pagan Christmas?
by DubR inhiya guys and gals.
im not trying to be self-righteous but i want to understand the thought process of someone who knows the origins of christmas, but starts celebrating it (putting up christmas tree, exchanging wrapped gifts; repeating merry christmas to everyone they see in the month of december)??
it seems very silly to me (imo) after knowing how and why christmas was created (to cater to pagans sun worship and convert to christianity)!!
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cheerios
guess god should've put a warning label on xmas trees ...