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  conundrum for the writing department

  by therevealer in

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  in the latest awake magazine in an article "are science and the bible compatible?

  " three men of science are referred to and quoted, henry schaefer, professor of chemistry, austrian physicist and nobel laureate erwin schrodinger and john lennox, professor of mathematics at the university of oxford, england.

  if you do a google search of these names you will be see that all three have years and years of worldly education to their credit (which is contrary to all things watchtower).

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  cheerios

  it's not like the r&f will go and look up the quote from the source to see if it was right ... that would be 'independent thinking' and would be bad
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  Why Are They Called "Pioneers"?

  by Ding in

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  does anyone know how the wts came up with the term "pioneer" and the related "auxiliary" and "special" pioneer terms?.

  it's not in the bible and it seems to come from us expansionist history....

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  cheerios

  they are called pioneers .. because their lifestyle, customs and thinking come from pioneer days .. a la 1800s

  they use the term 'auxiliary' because their primary brains have to be shut down for teh aux to kick in ..

  and special .. think snl church-lady
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  KM Jan 2011 Family Worship

  by dozy in

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  there is a big insert in the jan kingdom ministry about the family worship night (which has evolved new capital letters - like governing body.).

  some helpful suggestions include the head of the household putting an agenda on the fridge door a few days ahead for the family to "build excitement and anticipation" (i kid you not.

  ) the provision is compared to the sabbath arrangement as a gift from god.

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  hmm perhaps if they didnt encourage their members to drop out of school to piosneer instead of getting an education, maybe more would actually know how to teach, let alone read ...
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  Encounter with JW's: Round three...

  by highdose in

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  2. friends

  a few days ago my door bell rang.

  when i answered it there were two sruffy looking men there both of them in their 60's/70's i would say.. one of them with a huge belly said to me " hello, we are going around the community today gadging peoples views from all nationalites, because we feel thats very important to do in this area as we have cypriot, russian and british like yourself...".

  i interupted there and said " sorry, who are you?".

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  cheerios

  haha awesome read
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  Pre-Thanksgiving snow - here we go

  by Gregor in

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  just a trace but a good indicator of what kind of el nina winter we are in for.

  high of 24 here today, in the teens tonight.

  i will be making salmon chowder today.

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  cheerios

  we have had snow for almost a month now - at times quite heavy.
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  Is Another 1975 Possible?

  by God_Delusion in

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  2. scandals

  howdy,.

  do you think the society has a planned campaign where they will state that armageddon will be upon us within the next 10 years and actually state that armageddon will definitely hit by 2020?

  we all know that they have been drumming into us that "the end is just around the corner", but can you see them pulling another 1975 stunt in order to bring in additional members?.

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  @nathan: figs are important to them you know ... remember andre, he doesnt give any 'figs' ...
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  Are Jehovah's Witnesses Damned For Their Beliefs?

  by Cold Steel in

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  obviously this is for people who believe in an afterlife.. are jehovah's witnesses damned because of their beliefs?

  please elaborate.. .

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  i dont believe they are damned for their beliefs ... maybe damn stupid ...
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  do the jw'swant you to not associate non jw's

  by not a jw in

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  my wife became a witness a few yrs after we had gotten married and i was wondering if the jw's believe that they should not socialize with people who are not jw's?i had some neighbors when i was younger and their kids who were close to my age said that that was their beliefs being witnesses.i ask my wife that and she says that isnt true.does it differ from congregation to congregation or is someone trying to cover up something?

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  i personally know a young woman who is an elder's daughter. she attended the local state university to get her master's so she could become a teacher.

  it does happen. sometimes witnesses have less-than-dogmatic parents that let them go. but far more do not go. the standard is and has always been (at least since i've been alive) that going to university is pointless because the "end is so very near" and true christians should be spending all their time in the field ministry, etc.
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  what flipflops caused you to think?

  by cheerios in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  while posting on another thread, i thought of this.

  for me, it was the "we never said you couldn't go to college" flipflop in the mid 1990s.

  when ofc we all know that to be an utter lie.. now that i think about it, their literature is written with future flipflopping mind.

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  cheerios

  while posting on another thread, i thought of this. for me, it was the "we never said you couldn't go to college" flipflop in the mid 1990s. when ofc we all know that to be an utter lie.

  now that i think about it, their literature is written with future flipflopping mind. the use of subjective language, indefinites, and assumptions masquerading as fact are very subtle to the average non-thinking dub. i remember being bothered during the revelation book study that they didn't seem sure about what they were writing as so many assumptions were made. it's easy then to say: "well you lot just got it wrong - we never said that" ...

  so what flipflops got your noodle working?
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  do the jw'swant you to not associate non jw's

  by not a jw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my wife became a witness a few yrs after we had gotten married and i was wondering if the jw's believe that they should not socialize with people who are not jw's?i had some neighbors when i was younger and their kids who were close to my age said that that was their beliefs being witnesses.i ask my wife that and she says that isnt true.does it differ from congregation to congregation or is someone trying to cover up something?

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  no, ofc not. there are jw's that have been to college - many went before they came in. not that many born-ins or raised-as go though. the point that he is making is that if your son is raised as a jw, higher education will not be a priority dictated for him by the congregation. at meetings, at assemblies, in the magazines, etc. they will constantly talk down about going to college. in some cases he will even hear directly that college is not for true christians. it's really sick.

  i know in my case, for years and years i heard how bad college was, only weak people went to college, all the evils of university, etc. then in the mid 1990s they did a flipflop, saying they "never said that". bullshit - i was there, i heard it. i even turned down a scholarship to a prestigious school because the WTS didnt think that going to college was a good idea.