Posts by GLTirebiter

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Can WTBTS legally do this for international conventions.

by joe134cd in

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i was just reading this on jwservey with regard to the international conventions.

if an individual selected to attend a special convention loses his exemplary status and is no longer qualified to attend, the delegate should be thoroughly informed of the reason for your decision.

such a person would be fully responsible for any financial loss associated with his abrupt disqualification as a delegate, even up to the time he was supposed to depart.. .

GLTirebiter

As far as pre-paid exenses go, that depends on the contracts signed (if any), who are the parties to the contracts, and which jurisdiction's laws apply to them. Not knowing those things, even a legal professional can't say if it's legal.

But whether or not it is legal, unless somebody pushes back the result is the same. An exemplary (sheep-like) Witness is unlikely to question decisions of the Watchtower Society, so most often the Society will have their way. Tech49's example illustrates how this works: the brother surrendered without significant resistance, and the Watchtower Society wins by default.

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and you think the kingdom hall is bad, watch this!

by unstopableravens in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayxetjrckl0.

GLTirebiter

What would he do if a poor person picked up a $20 bill to buy food for their family?

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Tribute To Flying High Now's Hat......

by charlie brown jr. in

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GLTirebiter

Were you working at Burger King? The outfit looks familiar...

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Michelle Obama caption competiton - hubby chatting to Danish PM blonde

by besty in

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"It's cold sleeping in the Oval Office--just ask Bill!"

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VERY CONFIDENTIAL LETTER - Child abuse 10/01/2012

by WatchTower87 in

confidential letter child abuse http://adf.ly/auxbu.

to all bodies of elders.

the congregation secretary should arrange for this letter to be retained in the congregation permanent file of policy letters.

GLTirebiter

No one should keep originals or copies of any of those letters.

Why are they destroying them? They may regret putting that order in writing so an oppising attorney can use it against them.

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THE QUOTE THE WBATS DENIES MAKING OF 1975!!!

by ADJUSTMENTS in

the wtbats like to state "we never stated when the end will come" when they blatantly have:.

1969 "if you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things.

because all the evidence in fulfillment of bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years.

GLTirebiter

The Governing Body never said this.

But the president of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society did! See this previous thread about Fred Franz's failed prophecy about 1975. Specifically, Franz cited the date September 5th 1975 (about 40 seconds into the linked video).

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Nelson Mandela - comments of what his life meant to you

by MMXIV in

nelson mandela has passed on.

he was a symbol of hope and peace to many.

has his life and achievements meant anything personal to members of jwn?.

GLTirebiter

This I hadn't heard before: Mandela had a JW connection (link to Freeminds). Mandela's wife was a Witness.

They went on to have four children together one of which died after nine months. Somewhere in the early 1950’s Evelyn converted to becoming a Jehovah’s Witness. This conversion spelled the end of their marriage. Why? Jehovah’s Witnesses teach that the end of the world is coming and all that are not Jehovah’s Witnesses will be destroyed by God. This is a core teaching they have preached for 150 years. In interviews Mrs. Mandela stated:

“Ms. Mandela, a member of the Jehovah’s Witness denomination, separated from Mr. Mandela in 1955 after what her husband described in his autobiography, 'Long Walk to Freedom,' as an irreconcilable conflict between politics and religion."

In another,

"There was a strong lobby within the African National Congress circles for Mr. Mandela to remarry her, but Sister Evelyn stood her ground that she did not consider remarriage and above all her former husband is not a worshiper of Jehovah like herself."

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Why do so many think JW Religion is a Cult? (NO APOSTATES PLEASE)

by Brother Mike in

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my question is, why do so many think the watchtower bible tract society is a cult?

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An apostate is one who leaves the JW religion

That is true for any religion, not just the Watchtower Society. The Watchtower's door-to-door work is intended to convince householders to become apostates from whatever other religion they hold.

and purposely tries to go out of there way to stop others from learning the truth.

That has nothing to do with the meaning of "apostate." That is the opinion of the Watchtower Society; it is an unjustified hyperbole used to impugn the character of those who leave their organization.

Why do so many think JW Religion is a Cult?

I prefer to say "high control group." The word "cult" has negative connotations that polarize the discussion and bring meaningful communication to a standstill (this thread is an example of that effect.) Those who have endured bitter experiences with the Watchtower's effect on their family, their friends and their own life often refer to the organization using strong and disparaging language; that is human nature. Frankly, "cult" is a rather benign word to describe the root growing the bitter fruit so many former Witnesses have endured.

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I'm Returing To Become A Jehovah's Witness Again

by Space Madness in

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a little background, i faded in 2007 and have been out ever since.

i started studying at 18 and have no jw realitives.

i'm returing because my life is heading in the wrong direction.

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Although I no longer believe in the Bible, the atmosphere and positive association will help me become the person I use to be. My life is all negative now and I need something positive to balance it out.

There are alternatives. If you don't believe what the Watchtower teaches, you're not likely to find long term happiness there. It's stressful to always be showing a false front. Look for a group where you can be true to your real self, and you will do better in the years to come. Being a hypocrite is no way to go through life.

Don't discount all religions based on your Watchtower experience (or what they say about other faiths). Few use the incredibly strict literal interetation of scripture they insist on, and nobody else uses their pecuilar version of the Bible. Look around and see if there is something that does resonate with you, that you really can accept as being an authentic path for right living. It is not yet time to surrender!

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Dawkins-The Greatest Show on Earth

by KateWild in

as many may be aware.

i don't like the man.

but i have chosen to review the first chapter of his book.. chapter 1... only a theory?.

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what were the experiments to find Higg's Boson an attempt to falsify?

The standard model predicts that Higg's boson will have certain characteristics, including (among other things) that it should be found in collisions within a specific energy range. If the experiments had not produced results consistent with Higg's particles in that energy range, it would have falsified some predictions of the Standard Model. If attempts to independently reproduce that (lack of) result turned out the same way, the next job for the theoreticians would be to explain the absence of Higg's particles in those experiments (perhaps leading to a correction of the Standard Model, perhaps to a new model). It would be a setback in a way, but also opens the door to new insights. Discovering that "Everything You Know Is Wrong" often is the first step to a better understanding. Constantly challenging your own beliefs is what makes science work as well as it does, despite the human ego.