Disgusting. Another way for them to keep the masses in poverty, under their controll, but then, still expect them to be able to to donate their "first fruits" to them. More & more high schools are offering college classes as part of an advanced curriculem, I wonder if that has something to do with it.
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Strange YPA article: Should I quit school?
by serenitynow! inthe november 2010 awake (the atheist issue) has a ypa article that seems strange to me.
it is about whether or not a kid should drop out of school.
the way that it's written makes it seem that dropping out of school, (not college) is ok under some circumstances.
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littlebird
Hello to you, silentone, I hope you had a nice weekend!
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Do You Still Believe the Bible is God's Word?
by cantleave inif so why???.
btw - i just see it as collection of old books written by men who reflected the thinking and knowledge of their time?.
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littlebird
Leaving, I love you, but I not one of those.
As far as the bible being Gods Word, as the wt describes it. No. I dont' believe he had a bunch of secretaries write down everything, some things yes, like the ten commandments, for example. John doesn't say his writings are "the word of God", he says that Jesus is the word of God. John 1:1
I believe what is said in Luke 1:1-4
1 Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled [a] among us, 2 just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. 3 Therefore, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, it seemed good also to me to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, 4 so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.
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New NBC show "Outsourced". A slap in the face?
by Mythbuster ini think it's bad timing, not going to be deemed "hilarious" by the many unemployed who lost their jobs due to outsourcing and is not going to last long given our current economic climate.. http://www.nbc.com/outsourced/.
the nbc forum for the show where folks are not so happy.. "outsourced" is a comedy where the midwest meets the exotic east in a hilarious culture clash.
the series centers on the all-american company mid america novelties that sells whoopee cushions, foam fingers and wallets made of bacon -- and whose call center has suddenly been outsourced to india.
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littlebird
I've seen the commercials, probably wont watch it unless Im bored. I think its in poor taste. I think americans loosing jobs oversees basically "sucks" and I despise playing "push one, then three," then I get someone I cant understand and they cant understand me, and we're saying "what did you say?' about ten times during what should be a 3 min call. Sorry to be crabby, I should go to bed.
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I don't Know what to do anymore!!
by LucyA ini'm afraid of people and ive really tried for fifteen years the rational part of mind keeps telling me im being stupid i've worked with these people for seven years i trust them there all really really kind none of them have done anything to harm me and when i'm at work and hanging around them i'm fine and happy and talkative but the moment i get into a situation where i have too be socalable i start having panic attacks and i cant breathe i tried talk to my dad (non jw parent) he told me to get over it that i've been out fifteen years and i cant blame my mothers religion for everything.
i'm starting too wonder if thiers somthing wrong with me!
the worst part is while the rational part of my brain is telling me my reations stupid the irrational part of brain is screraming and my hearts beating so fast i cant feal or control my reations.
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littlebird
Im no doctor, and you may not have this, but you sound alot like me. Im doing better, much better. I have generalized anxiety disorder and have panic attacks, my medication works very well. When I was a witness, I felt guilty for taking meds, (you know, considered spiritually weak, despite what they may put in print). Truth is , its a chemical imbalance, no matter how one side of me tried to be reasonable, the other side of me wigged out. I've gone through the very things you describe. No, you cant blame the religion for everything, but, it can exaggerate the problems. Their need to see everything in black or white, the strive to do everything right all the time, you cant do this or that, its a wonder we're not all in straight jackets banging our heads into walls. I need meds just like somebody with a heart problem or a diabetic. Go see your doctor.
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Are You A Better Person Since Leaving The Witnesses?
by minimus inare you a better neighbor, friend, husband, wife, etc.
i'm much less judgmental of what people do or think.
i'm more tolerant and i think i have real friends that are not as conditional as my jw brethren.. what about you?.
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littlebird
Im definately a happier person since I left and I would agree with everyone who said they are much less judgemental. Its alot less stressful to just deal with my own stuff than to worry about what someone else is doing or worry what they think of me and what Im doing.
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The Greatest Lesson the Watchtower Ever Taught Me
by jamiebowers inthe greatest lesson that the watchtower has taught me is to give the love that has been taken from me.
our mother shuns my brother and me to the extreme.
just this morning she told me on the phone from her hospital bed that we will have to learn her diagnosis through the grapevine.. she wasn't always like this.
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littlebird
Jamie, your post made me sad & happy at the same time. Sad at what you've lost, but happy that you've taken a horrible situation and turned it around for the good of others. You're awesome!
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My update
by doublelife init's been a couple of months since i posted anything.
i finally have internet in my apartment.
some of you may not remember me, some may.
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littlebird
That's great, Im so glad you're enjoying yourself!
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Married to the mob... er to a JW, want to talk about it?
by Libelle inthe mr is a jw-started back into studying 3 years ago, got baptized 2 years ago.
i've never been one, nor have an interested (was raised catholic, now am a pagan - uu).. i'm just starting this thread to see how you all deal with it.. thanks.
libelle.
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littlebird
Im still married to a jw man, but Im separating from him. Because I was in it and left a few years ago , he's constantly badgering me about the end coming, thinking it will make me want back in. NO WAY!
That's a smart thing. I've usually kept mum around them, but really they don't do that around me, why should I with them? Well, I guess in part because I don't want them to start "witnessing" to me, but still I should not keep myself under wraps, should I?
Thats one of my biggest stressors. Im christian now and I just keep it to myself, but do you think he would do the same, no. When I have made attempts to bring up my point of view it generally bends him out of shape like a pretzel. You might be able to get somewhere with him, because he wont have the same expectations of you, that mine does of me. As Gary mentioned, get familiar with their history, if you can show that there's no reason to believe that Jesus chose them as his people in 1918, then the whole belief crashes down. They do everything believing that the wt is gods chosen group, destroy that and you'll get somewhere.
Welcome, btw!
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Bethel Rules
by brotherdan inthis was brought up just in passing on another thread.
but i wanted to see if there are any bethelites or ex bethelites that remember some of the crazy rules we had to follow when we were there..
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MissyM
What is Bethel?
Bethel is the printing facility where they make the watchtower & awake magazines, along with the watchtowers books. Young people, particularly, young men, are encouraged to live and volunteer work hours as part of their service to Jehovah.
Are you studying with the witnesses Missy?