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  New light or did the speaker just pull this out his wazoo?

  by pubtruth in

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  i went to the last day of the dc here in west palm beach, just to make my mother company.

  wow, what a difference can a year outside the lie can do to perception.

  it was the same crap as you'd expect but there is a plot twist: the speaker was so into the talk he was actually starting to shout and wound up mentioning that they now know how many angels will be needed to destroy everyone at armaggeddon.

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  EE maybe you can make another calculation considering how many Thor would be able to kill
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  New light or did the speaker just pull this out his wazoo?

  by pubtruth in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i went to the last day of the dc here in west palm beach, just to make my mother company.

  wow, what a difference can a year outside the lie can do to perception.

  it was the same crap as you'd expect but there is a plot twist: the speaker was so into the talk he was actually starting to shout and wound up mentioning that they now know how many angels will be needed to destroy everyone at armaggeddon.

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  how stupid, he probably calculated almot 7 billion people divided by 185.000 (thats how many Assyrians one angel killed), and cam to 37.000 angels needed.

  Fur sure nobody said it during our DC, it was perhaps just the idea of the speaker, nothing official...
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  Do Elders Have A Reasonable Expectation Of Privacy During Judicial Committees?

  by DT in

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  2. friends

  i should point out that i'm not a lawyer and i'm not qualified to give legal advice.. there has been much discussion about judicial committees lately and how to handle and possibly record them.. naturally, the question of the legality of recording judicial committees is a concern.

  my understanding of the law in the u.s. is that it is legal to record private conversations in most states provided at least one party consents to the recording.

  in the other states, it is required to get the consent of all parties to record a private conversation.. however, it would be reasonable to ask whether or not a judicial committee is a private conversation and whether the elders have a reasonable expectation of privacy.

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  wha happened said: "To invoke clerical priviledge, the individual confessing cannot be sanctioned in any way"

  I think, this is a brilliant statement, because the society when its convinient, always likes to compare elders with clergy,

  How is the situation really in countries, where the clergy possesses such a privilege, is it bound legally to the fact, that confessions cannot be sanctioned ? If that is the case, then sorry, WTS, no privilege for you guys, since confessing a serious sin to elders ends up in a judicial comitee, and that always will have snactions (reprove or dfd !)
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  Why do so many major characters in the NT change their jewish name to a greek one ?

  by mP in

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  2. bible

  cephas/simon -> peter.

  saul -> paul.

  jesus -> christ.

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  wow Leo, soo interesting and alyways well documented, thanks for all the effort.

  are you available as an app for my smartphone ?
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  TV Report on JW in German

  by inbetween in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for those who understand german:.

  the german tv-channel pro7 broadcasted a program on wintesses last week, you can watch it still here:.

  http://www.prosieben.at/tv/galileo/videos/clip/321351-zeugen-jehovas-1.3202746/.

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  For those who understand German:

  The German TV-channel Pro7 broadcasted a program on Wintesses last week, you can watch it still here:

  http://www.prosieben.at/tv/galileo/videos/clip/321351-zeugen-jehovas-1.3202746/

  The report must have been partly made with approval of Bethel in Selters, since they filmed there and interviewed brothers as well.

  The report seemed largely fair and correct.

  However, they interviewed a brother from bethel, Wolfram Slupina, which i beleive is the official Bethel speaker for media and press.

  What he said, was quite disturbing. The report tells about the magazines, being published without the name of the writers. Being asked, why this is the case, the Bethel speaker answered, that this is done on purpose, because the author is Jehovah himself through inspiration !!

  What ? Either he said some nonsense, mind you, he is not just some brother, he is an official from Bethel !, or it is the new viewpoint of the Org, they pride themselves now as being inspired. Before they always used to say, the mags are not inspired and can be wrong too....

  the second disturbance was, when at the end of the report, he was asked about disfellowshipping. His reply was, that contact to dfd persons is broken on religious level. A typical example of double talk, we all know, that no witness is even allowed to say a simple hello to a dfd person (except relatives with necessary family business) What a bunch of deceivers and lyers...

  Anybody seen this programm too ??
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  CO Visits... Are elders honest about the TRUE state of the congregation?

  by Alfred in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this question is really for elders or ex-elders (or ministerial servants in the know).... did you find that some elders would tend to "white-wash" the true state of the congregation when they had their sit-down with the co every 6 months?.

  did some elders feel pressure to hide certain things from a co for fear of being "removed" from the boe?.

  (judging by the "fakeness" that some elders displayed during co visits, i have to wonder whether they were really worried about being removed for not seeking out inactives or encouraging more participation during the wt study, book study or fs...).

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  pretty well described so far.

  Consider the CO like a mid-level manager that comes to check up on the local outlet, and you understand most actions of the elders before the visit.

  From my own experience, what really troubles most of them , is the sheperding issue, in no hall I ever was, the elders never tolf the truth, which was almost always, that there is hardly a real shperding being done....
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  My son was murdered today

  by truman in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have been on this site daily, almost from its beginning, since i left the jws in 2001, but i have been more of a reader than a poster, as you can see from my post count.

  i know few here know me, although i know many of you through reading your posts.

  maybe it is not right to ask for support, when i generally stay quietly in the background of this forum, but i want only to speak a human misery of the deepest kind.

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  sitting at work, reading this now, having tears in my eyes, soooo sorry......
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  Be Honest---Describe your most prevalent feeling as a witness in ONE WORD!

  by MsGrowingGirl20 in

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  lets's go!!.

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  suffocating.

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  guilty
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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 03-25-2012 WT Study (WHOLE-SOULED)

  by blondie in

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  2. friends

  what sacrifices do we make in.

  everyday dress and conduct?.

  and offer sacrifices of praise to him,.

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  hate those stupid pictures, they start to teach first graders here, never say directly, whats forbidden but make rules by pictures...

  we also spent considerable time with the pictures, funny thing, i could precisely predict, which self-righteous Pharisees will comment on them ....awful...
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  risc of allowed fractions

  by inbetween in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  a brother in my hall mentioned in a twist of scriptures how we can thank the faithful slave class for warning us in connection with blood transfusions since 1945, because now the medical field recognises the riscs and try to minimize the use of blood.. despite the fatcs, that this statement is ridicolous in so many ways, i d like to find information (outside the "apostate" realm) that proves, that even allowed fractions are involing the risc of getting hepatitis, aids etc.... that would completely refute such a notion.. thx in advance... .

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  A brother in my hall mentioned in a twist of scriptures how we can thank the faithful slave class for warning us in connection with blood transfusions since 1945, because now the medical field recognises the riscs and try to minimize the use of blood.

  Despite the fatcs, that this statement is ridicolous in so many ways, I´d like to find information (outside the "apostate" realm) that proves, that even allowed fractions are involing the risc of getting hepatitis, aids etc...

  That would completely refute such a notion.

  thx in advance..