Posts by inbetween

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My son was murdered today

by truman in

i have been on this site daily, almost from its beginning, since i left the jws in 2001, but i have been more of a reader than a poster, as you can see from my post count.

i know few here know me, although i know many of you through reading your posts.

maybe it is not right to ask for support, when i generally stay quietly in the background of this forum, but i want only to speak a human misery of the deepest kind.

inbetween

sitting at work, reading this now, having tears in my eyes, soooo sorry......

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Be Honest---Describe your most prevalent feeling as a witness in ONE WORD!

by MsGrowingGirl20 in

lets's go!!.

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suffocating.

Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 03-25-2012 WT Study (WHOLE-SOULED)

by blondie in

jw
friends

what sacrifices do we make in.

everyday dress and conduct?.

and offer sacrifices of praise to him,.

inbetween

hate those stupid pictures, they start to teach first graders here, never say directly, whats forbidden but make rules by pictures...

we also spent considerable time with the pictures, funny thing, i could precisely predict, which self-righteous Pharisees will comment on them ....awful...

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a brother in my hall mentioned in a twist of scriptures how we can thank the faithful slave class for warning us in connection with blood transfusions since 1945, because now the medical field recognises the riscs and try to minimize the use of blood.. despite the fatcs, that this statement is ridicolous in so many ways, i d like to find information (outside the "apostate" realm) that proves, that even allowed fractions are involing the risc of getting hepatitis, aids etc.... that would completely refute such a notion.. thx in advance... .

inbetween

A brother in my hall mentioned in a twist of scriptures how we can thank the faithful slave class for warning us in connection with blood transfusions since 1945, because now the medical field recognises the riscs and try to minimize the use of blood.

Despite the fatcs, that this statement is ridicolous in so many ways, I´d like to find information (outside the "apostate" realm) that proves, that even allowed fractions are involing the risc of getting hepatitis, aids etc...

That would completely refute such a notion.

thx in advance..

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It makes no sense whatsoever that a" CREATOR" would only communicate with a minority of the population then put the onus on them to convey this life saving message to the WHOLE wide world

by smiddy in

i now find it idiotic that i could ever beleive the bible to be the inspired word of god.....,throughout the bible "god"has only dealt with a few of his favoured spokespersons to deliver his messages to a minority populace.individuals at first,..... then, patriarchs,nomads,a small nation,ignoring all other nations that had sprung up.......,abandoning his chosen nation,sending his "son"to a small nation, only giving them his pearls of wisdom,much of what was not even recorded for prosperity and remember he never wrote a word,it was left up to other imperfect humans to record what he was supposed to have said,just a smidgen......,again ignoring the bulk of humankind keeping them in ignorance of his plan for universal salvation,leaving it all up to imperfect humans to spread this message of salvation, whom he has already condemned for their sinfullness and disobedience.i just find it so unbeleivable.

in the 6000 years of recorded history only a fraction of the earths population,maybe less than a third have ever heard of the god of the bible, or his so called plan to redeem humankind ,thats millions and millions of people.

( india,arabic,afghanistan,pakistan etc.etc.).

inbetween

religion is the big excuse, people created for God not revealing himself.

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Are Synapses an Example of Irreducible Complexity?

by cantleave in

jw
friends

this is a excellent video about the development complex neuro-circuits.

well worth watch all the way through.

i remember that along with the eye, synapses were often quoted as an example of irreducible complexity by jw's and other creationists, from 4:38 on this video there is a great explanation of why this is not so.

inbetween

good video cantleave, enjoyed it

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striking similarity to JW

by inbetween in

ever heard of this church ?.

example: http://rcg.org/articles/abcc.html.

very similar reasoning to jw,...

inbetween

ever heard of this church ?

example: http://rcg.org/articles/abcc.html

very similar reasoning to JW,..

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What are the best things to first bring up to a JW parent about mistakes, lies, etc., from the GB?

by Chemical Emotions in

jw
friends

i need advice..

inbetween

usually older ones remember the hype about 1975, and if they are honest, they will have to madmit, that it was not the brothers running ahead, but it was the whole Org pushing this date.

Its a little start, they surely considered it back then, and still stayed, however, reminding them and then introducing other mistakes of the borg may eventually bring in the straw that break the camles back.

Then again, some camels are very strong....

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evolution

by inbetween in

since my awakening from the mind control of the wts, it has been an exciting also frigthening journey of exploration and free thinking.. i would say, today i try to be open to anything, i ll go whatever direction facts show.

while i`m no scientist, i think i have a glue about the scientific method.

i also agree with the statemant, that some extraordinary claim needs extraordinary proof.. so far, it is a difficult question whether god exists or not, and probably in my lifetime i will not get a conclusive answer.. however, my concerns are about evolution, since even a confirmation of evolution does not necessarily exclude the existence of a god, it just proivdes an alternative explanation, in case there is no god.. even though i did not really read a book yet about evolution, i read other books of people, whose reasoning i can agree to, and they believe in evolution.. .

inbetween

I think, I´m getting the concept of evolution more clear now,

all I need is to verify the proof, which is often in the fossil record. All I know about fossils is, yes you guessed right, from the WTS

but thats something I have to look for and read about.

The other day I watched a program on TV about some strange animal in Russia, a mole like thing, with tiny eyes, but blind.

I thought, what does this particular animal point to, to a creator who made everything perfect (why then stunted eyes ?) or rather some kind of development over million of years, where in constant darkness eyes are more of a hindrance than a help.

another point is, I even wondered as a full believing witness, why do animals get problems of old age like humans ?

Amazingly, while I´m still not convinced about either model, creation or evolution, I learn to evaluate facts from a neutral stand, and do not need to brush off everything that is said in support of evolution, as most witnesses do.

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evolution

by inbetween in

since my awakening from the mind control of the wts, it has been an exciting also frigthening journey of exploration and free thinking.. i would say, today i try to be open to anything, i ll go whatever direction facts show.

while i`m no scientist, i think i have a glue about the scientific method.

i also agree with the statemant, that some extraordinary claim needs extraordinary proof.. so far, it is a difficult question whether god exists or not, and probably in my lifetime i will not get a conclusive answer.. however, my concerns are about evolution, since even a confirmation of evolution does not necessarily exclude the existence of a god, it just proivdes an alternative explanation, in case there is no god.. even though i did not really read a book yet about evolution, i read other books of people, whose reasoning i can agree to, and they believe in evolution.. .

inbetween

Thanks for the really good insights, I will seriously consider them, and may respond later, and also try to get some of the books you suggested.

Also thanks DJeggnogg for posting the first page again, since I only can read the second page.