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  BIG-JW Sues over Blood demand

  by Refriedtruth in

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  jehovah's witness battles in kansas court for bloodless transplant .... kansas city star - brad cooper-1 hour ago.

  but she also would have to compromise her jehovah's witness principles, because she would receive a blood transfusion, something she believes violates god's ...transplant case pits religion, medicaid rules -kansas.com.

  get in and comment expose deadly watchtower dogma shows how unpractical bloodless elective surgeries can be wants $250.000 k for operation.

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  coffee_black: that is terrible, and I´m very sorry for that. Surely in his mind it must have been a capital sin to take an organ transplant, and he would have lost the favour of God. I also know, the moral liability for that is on the WTS, no doubt.

  However, regarding the legal liability, those celebrated lawyers of the society would surely insist, it was a consciences decision, since no church actions would follow, if he accepted an organ transplant. Thats their twist on things, therefore my question was, whether cannibalism would lead to dfd.
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  BIG-JW Sues over Blood demand

  by Refriedtruth in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  jehovah's witness battles in kansas court for bloodless transplant .... kansas city star - brad cooper-1 hour ago.

  but she also would have to compromise her jehovah's witness principles, because she would receive a blood transfusion, something she believes violates god's ...transplant case pits religion, medicaid rules -kansas.com.

  get in and comment expose deadly watchtower dogma shows how unpractical bloodless elective surgeries can be wants $250.000 k for operation.

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  dozy: I was not aware of this statement, that judicial actions should not be taken, in the article of 80. Even if there was no case, at least it seemed to be a probability. I´ll have to check, what the current stance is regarding real cannibalism. If this is reason for dfd, then we can conclude, viewing transplant as cannibalsim was indeed ground for dfd, and I withdraw my former statement.
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  BIG-JW Sues over Blood demand

  by Refriedtruth in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  jehovah's witness battles in kansas court for bloodless transplant .... kansas city star - brad cooper-1 hour ago.

  but she also would have to compromise her jehovah's witness principles, because she would receive a blood transfusion, something she believes violates god's ...transplant case pits religion, medicaid rules -kansas.com.

  get in and comment expose deadly watchtower dogma shows how unpractical bloodless elective surgeries can be wants $250.000 k for operation.

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  dozy: sorry for nitpicking, but organ transplants, while heavy frowned upon from 67 to 80, were no disfellowshipping offense.

  Regarding the case: anybody know, if there were kind of fund rasing among witnesses to pay for this sister, in case she would loose the court case ?
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  How To Properly Interpret The Watchtower Society

  by metatron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have a long history in this cult, at various levels.

  a few of you, out there in cyberspace, share a similar experience - but many do not.. i'm going to tell you how to interpret things that happen in the organization, as well as what is written in the magazines.. it's not terribly difficult because they are so reactionary.

  a fellow bethelite corrected me on this point when i accused them of being fascists.

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  sounds about right, the whole structur contributes to that, elders report to CO, CO and DO report to the branch, branch to headquarter, writing department is assigned with corresponding articles....its all reaction, no divine revelation, or at least real leadership....
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  Was Judas Present During "The Lord's Evening Meal"?

  by dontplaceliterature in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so...i heard the speaker during the memorial mention this.

  he said for a fact, that judas would not have been present.

  however, upon reading luke 22, you see clearly that the argument about judas started after jesus instituted the new covenant.

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  very interesting, never thought about it before. Yes, I can see why both sides have arguemnts for and against, however, it is the "certainty" of the WTS that upsets me.

  WTS clearly lacks humility, thinking of themsleves as mouthpiece of God, they seem to be forced (by themselves) always to have answers.

  You are not allowed to disagree, until they disagree with themselves (new light ).

  "A state of doubt is unpleasant, but a state of certainty is ridiculous." Voltaire
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  Did you watch R rated movies when you were in it?

  by ldrnomo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  last night, i watched an r rated movie that featured violence.

  at least 30 people were shot in the first 45 min of the movie.. while i was in and an elder, i watched r rated movies all the time just didn't talk about it.

  so how many of you watched r rated movies even though "mother" said not to?.

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  never understood the big fuzz about R-rated movied over in the US. Its not such a big deal here, just avoid gore or porn content. The rest is pretty much up to the conscience. Of course we also have those extreme ones, they frown upon anything "worldly".

  oh, and "twilight" is also a big no no ...even though many young witnesses watch it regardless..
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  Reason for new study editions and the topics within.

  by hotiwitabody234 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i might be rambling on.... i attended the meeting tonight.

  i'm not sure how it is in other halls.

  there are about 120 publishers in our hall, in the midwest.

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  sorry, btw, welcome hotiwitabody234
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  Reason for new study editions and the topics within.

  by hotiwitabody234 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i might be rambling on.... i attended the meeting tonight.

  i'm not sure how it is in other halls.

  there are about 120 publishers in our hall, in the midwest.

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  I dont think we should read too much into this simplified approach of the WTS.

  The growth, in especially western lands, is due to immigrants, with poor English skills. Mostly they attend the Watchtower study, with a puzzled face during many paragraphs, and comment sometimes saying "Jehovah" or "Jesus loves us" etc...

  For those people, it is important to get the point: Obey the slave, then you can get saved....
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  Feb 15th WT article - teach your kids violence

  by just n from bethel in

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  2. beliefs

  if your kids drew this picture at school - what would her teachers/principal say?.

  another good quote from the article "we made props - swords ... ".

  just remember though - god hates violence - no violent video games for jws.. .

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  during mostly boring WT study I get time to look (read) those extar artcilces in there, I noticed also the picture, and showed to my wife. We had a good laugh...

  I more and more wonder, how this things can slip through...or like some other poster mentioned, the mags are really designed for uneducated desperate soziopaths, they accept everything as long as somebody the org) accepts them...
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  Anyone ever fake ring the doorbell when going door to door?

  by foolsparadise in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when i used to pioneer i would press to the side of the doorbell and act like i pressed it and then say "oh i think the bell must be broken".

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  yep, I confess...one time though, I ws with an overzealous dub, he pressed a few times after my fake pressing, what an a....