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  I guess I was ashamed of the JW religion...

  by Jim_TX in

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  when i was a kiddo growing up, i wasn't one of those that we all heard at assemblies giving their experiences... "here, let me show you the answer from the bible..." <reaching into their a** bringing out a bible>.

  no, i would sit there in the audience, and think... that person has balls to do that.. when i went to grade school, i tried to keep as low of a profile as possible.

  it was bad enough that i had to start the day by not saying the pledge of allegience like all the other school kids.

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  your description fits yery much my own experience
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  Did a householder at the door ever cause you doubts

  by perfect1 in

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  2. experiences

  recently on a saturday morning there was a knock on my door.

  two ladies asked me if i was familiar with the jws.

  i said: yes unfortunatley.

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  IloveTTATT: Ihad the same experience with psalm 37 many years ago, a well informed guy of protestant denomination brought it up, in his bible it was translated like "land" and he applied it to the land of Israel.

  over the many years, this somehow stuck in my mind, but you know, Paradise earth is such a nice idea, hard to get over wishful thinking sometimes...
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  Blondie"s comments you will not hear at the )(_!%_@)!# WT Study (WITH YOU)

  by blondie in

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  the conclusion of the system of things.. matt.

  17 the righteous ones will shine as brightly as the sun ***.

  that jesus inspection took place in 1918.. paragraph 7: [4] from 1910 to 1914, the.

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  any body noticed the picture on page 11 ? the anointed shining brightly in the heavens ?

  here: http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/?contentLanguageFilter=en&pubFilter=w&yearFilter=2013

  If you look at the depiction, there are exactly 8 of them even shining brighter than the rest. Coincidence ? 8 GB members ?
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  second study article July 15th 2013

  by inbetween in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  last weekend congos around the world studied the second artcile of the famous wt 15th july.. it dealt with the prohecy in matthew 13 about the weeds and the wheat.. while they claim, that the gathering in the storehouse took place after 1914, the gathering to the kingdom of heaven will be right before armageddon.

  what they did not mention, was when the resurrection of already dead anointed will happen.

  why some of them shine brightly in the kingdom, while others are still on earth ?.

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  Last weekend congos around the world studied the second artcile of the famous wt 15th July.

  It dealt with the prohecy in Matthew 13 about the weeds and the wheat.

  While they claim, that the gathering in the storehouse took place after 1914, the gathering to the kingdom of heaven will be right before Armageddon. What they did not mention, was when the resurrection of already dead anointed will happen. Why some of them shine brightly in the kingdom, while others are still on earth ?

  maybe they move the resurrection of the anointed also to the same time just before Armageddon. This would be another step away from the importance of 1914,

  As discussed next week, the appointed over the belongings will also be moved towards the future. it seems important events are moved away from 1914. Maybe a step to get rid of it ? It gets more and more riducolous to claim , the kingdom is ruling since 1914, maybe they prepare the way to teach, that the rule of the kingdom is after the anointed are taken to heaven and therefore a future event ? Thats would spare them the argument about 586/607 dilemma.

  Something is up, before 1914 becomes a date far away like 1799 was once...

  oh and the last days, they are always convinient, because something bad is always going on in this world, we dont need the 2520 calculation, hardly anybody cares about or even understands...
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  Who still goes to meetings and out in field service?

  by SloppyJoe in

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  2. friends

  just curious as to who on here still regularly attends meetings and goes out in service?

  as i sit at the district convention i can't help but think who else out in the crowd is just like me.

  doesn't believe what they hear, but are still here..

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  well, another elder here, doing the absolute minmum without raising suspicion yet. Like to quit, but while working on my wife, it seems better to stay in "position". Over the time, i had some sucess, but not enough to come forward as "secret apostate".

  While waiting for the right time, I try to get through time wasting meetings and FS. Meetings get interesting as i try to figure out all the fallacies, hypocritical statements and pure nonsense. In the meantime, i try to use the flip/flop of some WTS teachings for the advantage of some brothers. Fotunately our BOE is not hard core, and sometimes I could convince them to a more liberal viewpoint. Of course, all this is merely a little drop in the fire.

  I still feel also gulty soemtimes, for even through my being in, still promote this cult. Then again, I feel like being held hostage, and have no other choice, if I want my family to remain intact.
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  Team 10 obtains video of admitted child molester in Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.10news.com/news/investigations/team-10-obtains-video-of-admitted-child-molester-in-jehovahs-witnesses07222013.

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  so, if a see somebody murdering somebody else in front of (only) my eyes, I will not got to the police, because the two witness rule applies ? wtf ???

  The policy is really a mess, the guilt of the WTs is more and more apparent. haughty, nasty bastards...
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  Remarkably stupid point in this week's Jeremiah book study - Jehovah's loving kindness

  by sir82 in

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  2. friends

  the whole jeremiah book is an abomination, but a point in this week's study exceeded even its usual standards of inanity.. from page 144, paragraph 10:.

  in our day, god continues to show loving-kindness in ways that directly benefit his worshippers.

  consider the matter of prayer.

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  the whole jeremiah book is just a pretext for the usual same old: do more, be humble, don't fornicate, oh and obey the GB....
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  I can't find any bibles...seems to be a shortage...

  by Legacy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  howdy,.

  i have been trying to get 4 bibles for some folks i know who use to be jw's...not sure if they are returning but i'll do my part...can anyone shed some light or let me know where i can call to get bibles....patterson says there is a shortage, i've asked around to different halls in different states.. could it be because of jw.org ?.

  take care,.

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  good point Phizzy,

  it might be cost related, and maybe in connection with their selling Brooklyn and building warwick ? seems more likely to me...
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  Leaving the Watchtower religion behind...are we ABLE to reconsider with FREEDOM what may NOT be "true?"

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as we all now know, once you leave the watchtower religion you are exposed to the possibility of education for the first time.. an ex-jw discovers that the theocratic lessons they have learned were not all they were led to believe , i.e.

  "accurate knowledge.".

  is this story actually true?

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  wow, so amazing, especially to discuss things the much younger JW of myself.

  The other day I was thinking, maybe this is something that may indeed unite some of many ex-JW. My approach to the faith was, even though being born in, always on a logical basis. I believed, our religion is firmly based on facts and absolute logical conclusions. I never really "felt" much in a religious sense, even as a full believer, my prayers were kind of empty...

  I did question, but the mistake was, i only looked for answers in the societies literature. See, how effective information control can be.

  Oh, and btw, Terry , I always read and appreciate your posts here, thanks for them .
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  new FDS teaching

  by inbetween in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  with the study of the new teaching of july 15th wt, which will be done in septmember 2013 in sight, i try to collect all kind of objections from here and other sites, in order to have enough ammunition for discussions ready.. wih this in mind, i found an additional problemwith this new teaching.. since before 1918/19 there was no fds, ergo no channel of truth, ergo no true worship, and russel and his fellows just some "normal" folks, what about all those, who were baptized prior to 1918 ?

  like freddie franz, rutherford etc, there baptism was therefore not valid, just like jw view baptisms of former catholics, protestants etc not valid and baptize them again.. ho can they be annointed, when they were not properly dunked ?

  just show, with their new teaching, the fds cut the very branch they are sitting on.. .

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  with the study of the new teaching of July 15th WT, which will be done in septmember 2013 in sight, i try to collect all kind of objections from here and other sites, in order to have enough ammunition for discussions ready.

  Wih this in mind, I found an additional problemwith this new teaching.

  Since before 1918/19 there was no FDS, ergo no channel of truth, ergo no true worship, and Russel and his fellows just some "normal" folks, what about all those, who were baptized prior to 1918 ? Like Freddie Franz, Rutherford etc, there baptism was therefore not valid, just like JW view baptisms of former catholics, protestants etc not valid and baptize them again.

  Ho can they be annointed, when they were not properly dunked ? Just show, with their new teaching, the FDS cut the very branch they are sitting on.