Posts by cantleave

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My Relief

by Smart in

what a massive relief!

thank god i have just found this site the other day!

i don't know where to begin!

cantleave

Welcome to this dynamic and supportive forum.

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Show this to the young ones in the congregation

by EdenOne in

hopefully it will make them think.. .

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eden.

Pope says Big bang and Evolution are correct !

by Phizzy in

from the u.k independent newspaper :.

" the theories of evolution and the big bang are real and god is not a magician with a magic wand, pope francis has declared.. speaking at the pontifical academy of sciences, the pope made comments which experts said put an end to the pseudo theories of creationism and intelligent design that some argue were encouraged by his predecessor, benedict xvi.. francis explained that both scientific theories were not incompatible with the existence of a creator arguing instead that they require it.. when we read about creation in genesis, we run the risk of imagining god was a magician, with a magic wand able to do everything.

but that is not so, francis said.. he added: he created human beings and let them develop according to the internal laws that he gave to each one so they would reach their fulfilment.. the big bang, which today we hold to be the origin of the world, does not contradict the intervention of the divine creator but, rather, requires it.. evolution in nature is not inconsistent with the notion of creation, because evolution requires the creation of beings that evolve.. the catholic church has long had a reputation for being anti-science most famously when galileo faced the inquisition and was forced to retract his heretic theory that the earth revolved around the sun.. but pope franciss comments were more in keeping with the progressive work of pope pius xii, who opened the door to the idea of evolution and actively welcomed the big bang theory.

cantleave

This guy is pissing a few hardline bishops off.........

.......I quite like him.

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Keeping up with Jehovahs chariot?

by Vidqun in

witnesses are quick to remind us to keep up with jehovahs chariot.

perhaps they should examine the context of the chariot, mentioned by ezekiel.

they always quote the first part (ezek.

cantleave

Jerkhoover's chariot needs some forward gears - its always stuck in reverse.

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The Elders help

by punkofnice in

jw
friends

a young jw i used to know (nice person), said within earshot to a non df'd ex jw he knew that his "..parents are up and down in the relationship and the elders(tm) are going to help.".

the non df'd ex jw said to me that he considered that after the elders(tm) get involved his parents were bound to split up.

the non df'd ex jw also commented: "what do elders know?

cantleave

I often felt under-qualified to deal with some of the questions I was asked as an elder. Pray more, read the bible society's literature more and do more service was never really a satisfactory answer!

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Finally Free!!!

by ADJUSTMENTS in

my wife and i are finally free of this horrible cult we will be leaving the south east for the north western part of the us to start anew!!!

our friends and family have no idea of our new beliefs and feelings on the cult so it should be a nice clean break!

hope to connect with some in that area pm me if you'd like.. .

cantleave

Congratulations and good luck

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Embarrassed and Glassy-Eyed stop by

by wheelwithinwheel in

two brothers doing the territory stopped in at my place.

i kept them on the step.

after some hellos and catching up, i said so you folks are on tv now.

cantleave

Great job

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Top Scientist descent from Creationism

by Coded Logic in

http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?isbn=0309064066&page=25.

http://www.nas.edu/evolution/intelligentdesign.html.

http://www.aaas.org/news/aaas-board-resolution-intelligent-design-theory.

cantleave

Francis Collins....

"But I have no difficulty putting that together with what I believe as a Christian because I believe that God had a plan to create creatures with whom he could have fellowship, in whom he could inspire [the] moral law, in whom he could infuse the soul, and who he would give free will as a gift for us to make decisions about our own behavior, a gift which we oftentimes utilize to do the wrong thing.

I believe God used the mechanism of evolution to achieve that goal. And while that may seem to us who are limited by this axis of time as a very long, drawn-out process, it wasn't long and drawn-out to God. And it wasn't random to God."

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Was the Biblical Canon Directed by God?

by Chris Tann in

this is a question a sincere christian may agonize over after learning that some books of the bible were rejected by certain early christian groups,while other books that did not make the canon were accepted.

also,when one realizes that so called inspired writers of the greek scriptures quote from apocrypha,that most christians reject today,one wonders if these writings that include these quotes should even be in the bible.. it is true that when it comes to the christian greek scriptures the canon has been closed for many centuries.

also, these books have been accepted by christians ever since the second,perhaps first,century.

cantleave

I would worry about anyone who states the writings of Paul (the homophobic, misogynist, self important bigot)are basis for his or her morality.

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The great Jack Bruce of Cream passes

by designs in

the premier bassist of his generation, his songs made many love babies.

rock on forever jb..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwdo0juekqm.

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cantleave

:-( the Rock heroes of my youth, the rebels who made my mother think the New Order System is just around the corner are all passing on.