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Hey New Posters Check into the Sex Forum please!
by ISP inits not what you think but there is a 'hello hello' and even a 'hello hello hello' thread that allows you to say a few words about yourself if you want.. kind regards.
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Falling asleep at meetings
by Naeblis inonce i fell asleep at the meeting.
the melodic drone of the worker bee on the platform filled my head with z's.
i fought it's clever machinations, with figurative tooth and nail i clawed at it's relentless apathy.
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Put your hands together for 'YK' !
by ISP infrom h2o, final post from the old warrior himself.
showing signs of battle, he is hit with realism and acceptance of the true state of the wts.
take a look at his last words.
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'Changes That Disturb People' Awake 4/22/70
by ISP inone of the reasons is that people are disturbed by what is happening in their churches.
yes, millions of persons have been shocked to learn that things they were taught as being vital for salvation are now considered by their church to be wrong.
have you, too, felt discouragement, or even despair, because of what is happening in your church?
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Wasted away !!
by GeneBean inwhy do people waste there time on this web site,jehovahs witness,discussion, if they cant stand jws, anymore ??
maybe just to bring the strong down to there level.
gene.......
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Awake March 8 ,2001 'History'
by ISP infrom page 4 ' besides possible prejudices, another important factor to consider when reading history is the motive of the writer, <b"any history told by the wielders of power....must be regarded with the utmost suspicion,"b> says michael stanford in a companion to the study of history.'.
a handy quote and so true when consideration is given to the historical accounts often provided in publications like the proclaimers book.
these have often provided a misleading picture of what actually happened etc.. isp
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Helping the Depressed Souls
by ISP inalthough christians as a whole rejoice in the lord, some among them suffer various forms of depression.
(philippians 4:4) severe mental depression is a serious emotional disorder that has even led to suicide.
at times, brain chemistry and other physical factors are involved.
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when the rain clears...
by Deacon inive been reading thesr posts for a while, thinking on them, pondering as the wt has recommended over the years.. having grown up as a witness, and having been involved in both the boring and the more exciting parts of the ministry, i know what it is like to be part of a team, and more importantly , i know what its like to be a team player on gods side.
and then one day, things start to unravel, the marriage, the relationship with bethel, the relationship with members in the congregations, and then, on another later day, suddenly you find yourself on the outside.. so, as time passes, a person begins to miss the association, the meetings, the laughter of the ministry groups, even the smell of the kingdom halls.....and effort is made to restore self to favour....and in time that too....comes to pass.. but here i am, a few years later, once more isolated, but this time by my own choice, beset by doubts and concerns over something that i held and hold sacred.. my circumstances have changed.
i chose the path of marriage again, to a wonderful person that has filled my life with contentment without the pressures of having to be an elder or an example to others in the christian manner, for those that are or have been in positions of oversight, you will know what this means...and yes my wife is one raised as a witness, and having her own journey that she may or may not choose to share with you...in any case, i feel priveleged to know her just for the decent human she is.. so, here i am, watching, reading, thinking....and i admit to being a little lost.. firstly, 607, it may or may not be correct, frankly my dears.... the ever changing date of armaggeddon...well that would appear to be a previousness on the part of the leading lights...after a while it gets tedious and a little self defeating.... the meetings and requirements for field service...well as i see it, the bible indicates it is a requirement to meet together, and furthermore a requirement to tell others about jehovah....the application of the principles have become (almost law,) in order to belong to the organisation known as jehovahs witnesses...that is a minor problem, despite the best efforts from co's and do's from the platform, the unoffical stance is that if you aint cutting it.. you aint spiritual.. now,where im at in this stream of time, along with all the confusion about what is right and what is wrong, i have to just look for other confirmations that jehovahs time is at hand...if indeed it is near at all.. man is now developing life in vacuums, primitive cellular structures it may be, but the leaps of testing criteria has been enhanced by the use of computers to cut time.... man has the ability (proven) to destroy earth.. man is killing the earth.. now if i was the creator, and he once before destroyed civilisation when they built the tower of babel, i would be thinking that soon they would know stuff they shouldnt know, and in any case, the earthdewellers are so dumb they will destroy themselves..id better start big a... my concern is,, that in the bigger picture..does it really matter if we get it so wrong, so many times and so quickly?
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Heavenly Life Anyone?
by ISP innot the norm is it for a jw?
basically we told that were not going there even if we thought/felt differently.. 1935 seems to have been a threshold of sorts with the id'ing of the 'great crowd' of revelation 7 as an earthly group.
not saying i have the answers but i believe the position to be far from clear cut.. i wouldn't like to be on the wrong side of this rebuke!.