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  International convention Utrecht this weekend

  by Gorbatchov in

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  friends,.

  in an earlier posting gorby wrote about attending the international convention in utrecht this weekend, to keep the family happy and make some observations.. guests were gb member jackson and his assistent van der zande, a dutch helper of the gb.. 42.000+ attenders and +/- 250 baptisers.. the convention theme about "love" was not bad at all, from a christian viewpoint.. jackson and van der zande made a good presentation with humor.. the colorfull witness from arround the word were nice and nice to see.. typical witness doctrine about 1914, king of the north, being obient when your kingdom hall will be sold etcetera were hard to listen to.. but the love theme was not bad, and sometimes oké.. i see a transformation to an evangelical kind of tv church.. ifthe typical jw doctrine about years, endtime, education, blood and armageddon would be downplayed, gorby could see some positive side of jw-ism.. mainpoint is that jw try to show love but on a forced base, because they are told to do so.. but, not a bad convention, and a good, humble part of jackson and van der zande, did not expect this.. i write some positive because it is, what it is.. see your opinion.. gorby.

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  LV a peak in baptism this year in NL.

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  International convention Utrecht this weekend

  by Gorbatchov in

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  friends,.

  in an earlier posting gorby wrote about attending the international convention in utrecht this weekend, to keep the family happy and make some observations.. guests were gb member jackson and his assistent van der zande, a dutch helper of the gb.. 42.000+ attenders and +/- 250 baptisers.. the convention theme about "love" was not bad at all, from a christian viewpoint.. jackson and van der zande made a good presentation with humor.. the colorfull witness from arround the word were nice and nice to see.. typical witness doctrine about 1914, king of the north, being obient when your kingdom hall will be sold etcetera were hard to listen to.. but the love theme was not bad, and sometimes oké.. i see a transformation to an evangelical kind of tv church.. ifthe typical jw doctrine about years, endtime, education, blood and armageddon would be downplayed, gorby could see some positive side of jw-ism.. mainpoint is that jw try to show love but on a forced base, because they are told to do so.. but, not a bad convention, and a good, humble part of jackson and van der zande, did not expect this.. i write some positive because it is, what it is.. see your opinion.. gorby.

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  What they told that for 2019 so farin The Netherlands these are 600 baptisers, the highest level in 11 years.

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  International convention Utrecht this weekend

  by Gorbatchov in

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  friends,.

  in an earlier posting gorby wrote about attending the international convention in utrecht this weekend, to keep the family happy and make some observations.. guests were gb member jackson and his assistent van der zande, a dutch helper of the gb.. 42.000+ attenders and +/- 250 baptisers.. the convention theme about "love" was not bad at all, from a christian viewpoint.. jackson and van der zande made a good presentation with humor.. the colorfull witness from arround the word were nice and nice to see.. typical witness doctrine about 1914, king of the north, being obient when your kingdom hall will be sold etcetera were hard to listen to.. but the love theme was not bad, and sometimes oké.. i see a transformation to an evangelical kind of tv church.. ifthe typical jw doctrine about years, endtime, education, blood and armageddon would be downplayed, gorby could see some positive side of jw-ism.. mainpoint is that jw try to show love but on a forced base, because they are told to do so.. but, not a bad convention, and a good, humble part of jackson and van der zande, did not expect this.. i write some positive because it is, what it is.. see your opinion.. gorby.

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  Lv101 what do you mean?

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  International convention Utrecht this weekend

  by Gorbatchov in

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  friends,.

  in an earlier posting gorby wrote about attending the international convention in utrecht this weekend, to keep the family happy and make some observations.. guests were gb member jackson and his assistent van der zande, a dutch helper of the gb.. 42.000+ attenders and +/- 250 baptisers.. the convention theme about "love" was not bad at all, from a christian viewpoint.. jackson and van der zande made a good presentation with humor.. the colorfull witness from arround the word were nice and nice to see.. typical witness doctrine about 1914, king of the north, being obient when your kingdom hall will be sold etcetera were hard to listen to.. but the love theme was not bad, and sometimes oké.. i see a transformation to an evangelical kind of tv church.. ifthe typical jw doctrine about years, endtime, education, blood and armageddon would be downplayed, gorby could see some positive side of jw-ism.. mainpoint is that jw try to show love but on a forced base, because they are told to do so.. but, not a bad convention, and a good, humble part of jackson and van der zande, did not expect this.. i write some positive because it is, what it is.. see your opinion.. gorby.

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  Fulano,

  Yes his name was Van der Selm, and not Van der Zande. My mistake!

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  International convention Utrecht this weekend

  by Gorbatchov in

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  friends,.

  in an earlier posting gorby wrote about attending the international convention in utrecht this weekend, to keep the family happy and make some observations.. guests were gb member jackson and his assistent van der zande, a dutch helper of the gb.. 42.000+ attenders and +/- 250 baptisers.. the convention theme about "love" was not bad at all, from a christian viewpoint.. jackson and van der zande made a good presentation with humor.. the colorfull witness from arround the word were nice and nice to see.. typical witness doctrine about 1914, king of the north, being obient when your kingdom hall will be sold etcetera were hard to listen to.. but the love theme was not bad, and sometimes oké.. i see a transformation to an evangelical kind of tv church.. ifthe typical jw doctrine about years, endtime, education, blood and armageddon would be downplayed, gorby could see some positive side of jw-ism.. mainpoint is that jw try to show love but on a forced base, because they are told to do so.. but, not a bad convention, and a good, humble part of jackson and van der zande, did not expect this.. i write some positive because it is, what it is.. see your opinion.. gorby.

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  Friends,

  In an earlier posting Gorby wrote about attending the international convention in Utrecht this weekend, to keep the family happy and make some observations.

  Guests were GB member Jackson and his assistent Van der Zande, a Dutch helper of the GB.

  42.000+ attenders and +/- 250 baptisers.

  The convention theme about "Love" was not bad at all, from a Christian viewpoint.

  Jackson and Van der Zande made a good presentation with humor.

  The colorfull witness from arround the word were nice and nice to see.

  Typical witness doctrine about 1914, King of the North, being obient when your kingdom hall will be sold etcetera were hard to listen to.

  But the love theme was not bad, and sometimes oké.

  I see a transformation to an evangelical kind of TV church.

  Ifthe typical JW doctrine about years, endtime, education, blood and Armageddon would be downplayed, Gorby could see some positive side of JW-ism.

  Mainpoint is that JW try to show love but on a forced base, because they are told to do so.

  But, not a bad convention, and a good, humble part of Jackson and Van der Zande, did not expect this.

  I write some positive because it is, what it is.

  See your opinion.

  Gorby
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  International convention

  by Gorbatchov in

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  this week i see many jw going over the top and beat their (sometimes medical) limits for the convention preparation with music, ethnic cloats and greeting costumes.. my jw grandparents will turn in their grave.. my opinion is that the jw organization has given their blessing at it because of "give them bread and games".

  it keeps the rank and file busy.. what i don't get is that the oldtimers accept all these changes.

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  Gorby attends 2 days to keep the family happy. We don't go to other meetings.

  Meanwhile G. listens to the key parts of the convention for observation.

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  Who's Worse, Watchtower or the Mafia?

  by APieceOfShitNamedTate in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xofz--1fq2u.

  "and along with making us seem legit comes cash...tons of it.

  i mean, what do you think we're doing planning all of these conventions?

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  The maffia is organized.

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  International convention

  by Gorbatchov in

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  this week i see many jw going over the top and beat their (sometimes medical) limits for the convention preparation with music, ethnic cloats and greeting costumes.. my jw grandparents will turn in their grave.. my opinion is that the jw organization has given their blessing at it because of "give them bread and games".

  it keeps the rank and file busy.. what i don't get is that the oldtimers accept all these changes.

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  Gorby is also in Utrecht this weekend due to family reasons.

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  International convention

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this week i see many jw going over the top and beat their (sometimes medical) limits for the convention preparation with music, ethnic cloats and greeting costumes.. my jw grandparents will turn in their grave.. my opinion is that the jw organization has given their blessing at it because of "give them bread and games".

  it keeps the rank and file busy.. what i don't get is that the oldtimers accept all these changes.

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  This week I see many JW going over the top and beat their (sometimes medical) limits for the convention preparation with music, ethnic cloats and greeting costumes.

  My JW grandparents will turn in their grave.

  My opinion is that the JW organization has given their blessing at it because of "Give them bread and games". It keeps the rank and file busy.

  What I don't get is that the oldtimers accept all these changes.

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  Are Birthdays now OK?

  by rickroll in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i see so many old and young dubbers on fb who are wishing each other a happy bday.

  when i was in the cult it was a huge no no.

  is this a doctrinal change or is it just a bunch of dubbers who are bending the rules?.

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  Some JW do.

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