I'm pretty sure that tattoo = no MS or eldership if you have it done after baptism.
Posts by freddo
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21What will the elders think?
by TMS ina week ago my wife and i ran into a jw nephew and his wife at the supermarket.
despite knowing that my wife and i are no longer jw's, he was very gracious, giving his aunt and i a warm hug and introducing his wife to us.
he casually mentioned meeting with the elders and their decision to disfellowship.
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help with parenting ?
by creativhoney infor those who are now out and we can't use the 'what would jehovah think' method any more, has anyone struggled with discipline since leaving?.
my parents were so strict and laughter and silliness was frowned upon.
- especially by a militant stepfather.
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freddo
Love it Aunt Bee - I can't match eight but I agree I know less now I'm on my fourth teenager than when I was on my first!
Yup, it all comes to a head when I can't see the bedroom floor for junk and the reins are pulled in for a weekend and a month later and they try it on again - but overall they're lovely kids even though the eldest is 24 and married now. Wait 'til the grandchildren come along - I'll be full of wisecracking "told you so's"
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Pioneer Removal
by IMHO inwho's been removed from pioneering, and what was the reason given, and was it true?.
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freddo
Which CO was that cantleave? Bill Harris? Sounds like him to make a mountain out of a molehill ...
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Who could be banned for life from serving as an Elder?
by JWoods inno, i didn't mean sisters.
seriously - two or three things made me think about it:.
first, recent threads made it clear that several here have seen people get dfd, re-instated, and eventually become elders.
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freddo
Raymond Franz, sadly.
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what was the reaction to princess Di's death in your cong?
by highdose ini know it was over ten years but it occured today that it was the first time i was shocked by the reaction of the the dubs.
the general opinion seemed to be that yes it was "sad" ... but actauly it was very good news that she had been killed now, because that meant that she would get a resserection!
and of course seeing that she had led such an immoral life, she would never have survived armargeddon had she lived!.
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freddo
> Hamsterbait
Wow! I never heard of that! WHich assembly venue was that?
In the group study that I was in it (I was an elder but not the group overseer) was split down the middle about going in field ministry on the Saturday of the funeral - half - including me said they weren't going out as it didn't "feel right" - the other half led by the spineless group overseer's dominant wife did.
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Assembly Call: PLEASE Come Back & Help Us Out---Ministerial Servants & Elders!
by minimus ini was told they were practically begging those elders and servants who are no longer "being used" to help carry the load once again.
these people are unbelievable!.
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freddo
>minimus:
"grotty" is a British unoffensive slang word meaning unpleasant, miserable, squalid or offensive.
e.g "that elder is a grotty little man" "the secretary's job is pretty grotty at times" "the mothers' room is a bit grotty and tatty"
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"... There is more happiness in giving than there is in receiving!" - Acts 20:35"
Keynote Address:
Be happy in this time of the end - how?
By giving us all your lolly of course!
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News from Mother ship
by jefferywhat in1. bethel in ny suspect high level apostate, cant identify it but know its there.
2. major organizational changes about to start rolling out, one is changes to the "service committee" and titles, po to be done away with, thats all i know for now.
was told that if you are the sort of person that cant handle changes, you wont stay in the org for long.
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freddo
Bump! Any more news?
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Is it possible for an Elder to get back his "priviledges" after being demoted?
by african GB Member infor example, if he was demoted due to one of his children(who are still under him) being df'd or is no longer "exemplary".. agbm.
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freddo
Yes he can get his "privileges" back.
It seems a bit tighter nowadays in the UK - as said above - if you resign (and if you subsequently would not have been removed anyway - BoE's are supposed to look at resignations of those who jump before they're pushed and ask themselves whether they would have removed the resigner had he stayed!) for over a year you will usually have to be an MS first. But you can often be an elder within 6 months to a year of that if your body like you.
If you are removed you have to be an MS first. If you are reproved and removed then you have to wait at least 3 years to be an MS first and usually (if there was no notoriety) it will be about 5 - 7 before you could be an elder from reproof date. If you are DF'd then it's a minimum of 5 years to be an MS from reinstatement and probably approaching a total of 7 - 9 to be an elder again.
In around about 2000(?) a procedure was brought in where "your kids could bring you down" - say you've got 4 kids living at home and one goes bad in jw terms - then unless the body really hate you you'll survive. (But they'll check if your family study was regular and if you ignored previous counsel to get junior in line then you might well be on your way.) If two kids "go bad" then you might lose your privs. If three, then it don't look good, buddy! And if all 4 go out then you're definitely gonna be toast!
I did hear rumour of a guy in Cornwall, England who couldn't cope with "the judicial stuff" but was prepared to be an MS and his body were enlightened enough to ask the branch in the UK who then allowed it in the late 1990's early 2000's but I cannot confirm that as I got it from a prominent know it all elder who seemed to be about 80% right in what he blabbed to me.
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New CO 70 yrs old, "youre not doing enough" school. Sigh
by monkeyman ingot our new co. old school guy, 70 yrs old.
mo is "youre all not doing enough".
sigh.. three yrs of this asshole..
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freddo
CoBoE: Thanks for the schedule Bro. CO; I notice that Mrs. CO has a phantom dietary requirement that means she has to have a vegetarian, martian, hypochondrarian diet? That's fine. (thinks: Oh jeez!)
Oh, you need a bed with no down feathers in the duvet because you have an allergy to "natural" stuff - ok - I'll sort that!
Of course you can have a room facing West because the bright sunlight in the mornings plays up your eyes ...
And the sister at your accommodation address must not wear perfume because it brings you out in hives - understood.
And what's this? Your wife needs to sit in the front of the kingdom hall because the paint has a chemical of homeopathic proportions and it brings her out in blotches - riiiiigggghhhhtt!
No, no! No problem at all.
CoBoE walks away, gets five paces away, turns round and says: Look. I'll cover your *ss! Why don't you leave us alone for the week, take your wife on holiday, pleasure her repeatedly until she screams with satisfaction and your knob is as orange as a carrot, and have a case of fine wine to help you forget what a sad life you really lead! Here's a hundred bucks to get you started on your way ....
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What do you think fellow forum members - would that work?