Posts by allelsefails

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Democrat or Republican? Does it matter?

by Wonderment in

election year is approaching.

are we ready for the political campaigns?

for those who vote, does it really matter whether we vote democrat or republican?.

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George Washington said that a 2 party system would destroy America and it very nearly has. It has brought us to the brink of disaster now. More than 50% of americans are "moderates". That is why we see republican presidents dealing with a dem congress and then a dem president dealing with a pub congress. People are AFRAID of a government of all Pubs or Dems. They could really F%#K us over. Right now we have a government where Obama is arguing w/congress and they can't get anything done. That is what MOST Americans want. A government that can't do anything. The less the government does the better.

I'm pretty sure THE CONSTITUITION says"provide for the common defense, regulate interstate trade". That is the beginning and the end of what we want from our federal government. Our local and State Govs can handle everything else some well some badly, but that is our problem noone elses.

Long live the republic!

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assemblies and alcohol

by pedal power in

our dc coming up this weekend, i hated them and the only thing that kept me going ,was the reward of booze at the end of each day.my then wife,zelous judgemental pioneer, you know the type,not only droned on about my drinking, but about everyones drinking, a real barrel of laughs not.

anyway, one year we went to another dc, in newcastle, all seemed to be going well, until lunch.we went over to a hotel for lunch,i ordered my fresh orange and food, a few minutes later, the local jw,s arrived for lunch, they had all pr-ordered drinks,alcoholic drinks, and not one drink but many !!!

they were buisy getting boozed up for the afternoon session,way to go, i was about to join them, when my wife told me " dont even think about it ", anyway she was outraged, but there they were ,with thier little convention badges, men and women, young and old, getting merry, they dont even do that here in scotland, !!!.

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ohhh... i wish my conventions had alcohol ...

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This convention blows

by Anony Mous in

seriously, half day in (already had an argument with the wife this morning about individuality in the organization in which she conceded that a lot of it is based on looks) and this is already getting on my nerves.

i'll post a rebuttal based on my annotations later in the week but one thing i got to get off my mind: saying the feminist movement (women going to work instead of staying home) and the diversity laws (allowing for homosexuality - but also religious freedom, racial discrimination etc.

) caused a lot of the problems in our world right from the stage.. there are less people here than last year - about 500 less..

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I love my wife.... She IS IN..... we went to the convention together and she even recognized the c\razy stuff they say... It is hard foir me to argue with her because she thinks moral accountability of JWs is a good thing, tho she is not on board with the FDS.....

For years I have heard that "depressed"ones don't have God's spirit..... "Joy" is a fruitage. It is ridiculous logic that makes all JWs feel horible if they complain.

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What is the most offensive/idiotic piece of WT literature you've read from the past 20 years (approximately)?

by Chemical Emotions in

i think that some of the dumbest were ones that pertained to science- not all of them, but a few, particularly the ones about evolution.

the most offensive (and also dumbest) were the ones about women, and the ones about rape.

those were horrible.

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Godrulzc - What are Salvific Issues to you? I know the naturwe of Christ, But not Blood? Is immoralitry? Adultery? Pagan worship like Christmas? Easter? (actually named for a Pagan Goddess)...... Just interested in what you are thinking here.....

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What is the most offensive/idiotic piece of WT literature you've read from the past 20 years (approximately)?

by Chemical Emotions in

i think that some of the dumbest were ones that pertained to science- not all of them, but a few, particularly the ones about evolution.

the most offensive (and also dumbest) were the ones about women, and the ones about rape.

those were horrible.

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NC - THE "Generation" used to be a group of people that saw (understood) 1914. Then it changed to anyone alive in 1914. I was assured that by 1984 (I was 8) the end would come. It recently changed to anyone who was aware of events in 1914 and ANOINTED who overlapped lives with ANOINTED ones today. Yes the GENERATION is not 40 years like Jesus' Generation, but an OVERLAPPING generation. No dictionary anywhere would agree or accept there BS, but that is what it is.

The school brocure was idiotic and ridiculous.

I loved my mom studying the Menstruation chapter of the "Youth" book with me when I was 9 years old. I am sure that did no F*@k my mind up.......

Whwn allelsefails try something thats make sense.....

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DC 2011 - Dragnet

by allelsefails in

even my wife had no idea what to think.

the "separating work" described here is taking place today?

wtf.

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Even my wife had no idea what to think. The "Separating Work" described here is taking place today? WTF. I thought we lost the seperating work 16 years ago......... "Sheep and Goats" anyone? Apparently those who who are brought to the memorial (25 milion) are caught in this dragnet, but only thoise who become active parts of the congregation are in the "Vessells" and will be saved. LMAO.

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Jesus Is Jehovah/Jehovah Is Jesus

by snowbird in

http://www.str.org/site/news2?page=newsarticle&id=5725.

i fought against this with all my wts-trained power, but truth prevailed.. any way you cut it, it comes out the same.. peace and strength in your search.. sylvia.

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Terry - I like it - Son of Man why can't that be good enough?

Not the Pauline silliness or the John make believe 70 years later. Just the Mark and Matthew Jesus. "Do the will of the Father and you will be saved" right?

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Jesus Is Jehovah/Jehovah Is Jesus

by snowbird in

http://www.str.org/site/news2?page=newsarticle&id=5725.

i fought against this with all my wts-trained power, but truth prevailed.. any way you cut it, it comes out the same.. peace and strength in your search.. sylvia.

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I'm answering from page 10 sorry I missed other stuff.

GOrwell - please don't represent me as making a joke of scripture.

[@allelsefails: So when Isaiah 9:6 calls the Messiah the ETERNAL Father, Isaiah was just kind of joking around about that, right?] Jesus "Will be Called" talking about AFTER his birth, life and ressurection. I thought this was an obvious Prophecy about a FUTURE event - did I miss something?

[Or how about Heb 13:8: "Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today, and forever." Sounds pretty eternal to me. How about Heb 7:3: "In being fatherless, motherless, without genealogy, having neither a beginning of days nor an end of life, but having been made like the Son of God, he remains a priest perpetually."]

He is - Eternal - without END - no problem / Heb 13:8 - OK no disgreement from me. / Heb 7:3 - Um... this is about Melchizadek - was he co-eternal with the Father? I missed that one.

Godrulz - I like being atypical - I think typical is stupid. Republicans and Democrats, Catholics and Protestants, Evolutionists and Creationists, People who thought Scotty McCreary should be American Idol. All typical. BOTH sides are dogmatic idiots to me. I like real debate. Real openmindedness.

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Jesus Is Jehovah/Jehovah Is Jesus

by snowbird in

http://www.str.org/site/news2?page=newsarticle&id=5725.

i fought against this with all my wts-trained power, but truth prevailed.. any way you cut it, it comes out the same.. peace and strength in your search.. sylvia.

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John1:1 in NWT impossible NO... incorrect maybe. I have asked Direct questions that you ignore and deflect.

You quote ancient Catholic denounciations of Arius, but you yourself are a heretic to the same Catholics.

SCRIPTURALLY = Refute my idea. PLEASE (I would love to be proved wrong.) Jesus is the SON of GOD. Equal to him in Power and Nature. He was appointed by God to a Superior position (after his ressurrection) and GIVEN the name above all other names (By God). This "promotion" allows him to fill many of the roles that ONLY Jehovah had before this time. (Savior/Lord).

I believe Yeshua, (the SON, Jesus, the Christ) was the firstborn of God, (the Father, Jehovah, the creator) a created being EQUAL in power to the Father. (Just as any adult Human son is.) Jesus has been "appointed" over us. He can hear prayers, lead God's people, Judge the wicked, and execute judgment on this world.

Please only answer with a scripture. Apologists and Councils are not interesting to me. They are as silly as the Governing Body and have the same authority from God. (0)

Thx

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Tonight I disassociated myself - after 24 years - had 2 hour meeting with Elder

by Intel in

i am now sitting at home.

my wife left with my little child.

my fault (i dislike the word "fault", but don't have a better one right now).. it feels strange, relieved and free, at the same time it was all very strange.

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I hate how JWs always put others on the defensive. If you are to be treated like an apostate then act like one. tell anyone who contacts you... "I just have doubts, I'll come back if you can show me (from a non-JW source) how Jerusalem was destroyed in 607 instead of 586 BC. NO ONE in the JWs can even try to explain that in a way that makes sense. It doesn't make your loss go away, but it can make you feel a little better to affirm that their beliefs are silly and a few will even concede the fact. Maybe you can even unconvert some people?

When ALLELSEFAILS try something that makes sense...