Posts by cattails

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Restored Worldwide Church of God - Watchtower in 12 years

by Dogpatch in

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this is the watchtower media dept.

in 12 years, after they lose their minds and start killing their members.. then splinter sects will form, based on the degree of corporate punishment each sect believes in.. some will still kill their errant children.. others will believe in spanking and forcing all meeting attendance,.

and finally, there will be those, prodded by the holy spirit, who renounce all physical contact with other people, preferring punishment by various eye signals.

cattails

C'mon Randy, I like the Restore Church of God, and I love David C. Pack, don't agree with him, but love to listen to him. Don't ask me why ... LOL

You are scaring me RR.

You can't really be serious about this guy,

he sounds so desperate.

If you read about Armstrong, online

he sounds like a real perv. sometimes.

I think he got some inspiration from WT

and Awakes! he'd read while in his jet

trips around the globe to make himself

look & feel important.

Now this guy Pack seems to idolize him

as a "prophet". Pack knows where the

"profit" really is, all that tithing and stuff.

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how much $$$ does the society make???

by NINfan05 in

my husband and i were talking about this tonight...how much do they make in a given year on donations??

and where does it all go?.

any thoughts?

cattails

Ballparking and half-informed guessing, I would say...

Typical congregation of 70 x 100,000 congregations = 7,000,000

so far so good... there's that many Witnesses in the world now...

typical congregation of 70 x $20 monthly contribution = $1,400

which is about what they are in my congregation.

Now 100,000 congregations x $1,400 p.mo. = $140,000,000 p.mo.

as possible income... take away thousands from Third World

countries that can't contribute that much, and add thousands

from a lot of the older ones who have left homes, inheritance

moneys, life insurance policies, etc. to the Watchtower... more

than would make up or at least balance out for 3rd World countries

I think.

So $140,000,000 p.mo. x 12 months = $1,680,000,000 p.yr.

Even half of that would be astronomical, wouldn't it?

A fourth of it even, it's a lot of money!

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A cool little youtube video to watch...

by Tuesday in

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i'm pretty sure this is based on one of my older theories regarding satan being the true god and jehovah being the devil and writing the bible from his perspective in order to stop people from worshipping the true god satan.

this is one of my smaller points in that theory, but this video is short, sweet and i think pretty fantastic.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4xfznro348.

cattails

It's gunshy!

Yup.

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Mexico and authorities

by diamondiiz in

has anyone contacted mexican authorities to find out an explanaition as to why wts was permited to exist for some 50 years under a cultral banner instead of a religious one?

also, another good question to them should be that of their "identidy cartilla for military service"!

how can jws hold this document if they teach against military service and yet are at the same time holding these documents?

cattails

The Mexicans have so many other problems to deal with

already that worrying about the WTS and the cartillas isn't

worth their time.

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How I figured JWs were NOT the truth...

by cognac in

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i remember thinking growing up that i wasn't sure it was the true religion but because my family were so sure of themselves and so many people believed it that i loved and respected it had to of been the truth.. then, i reasoned that because we were the only ones who fulfilled the preaching work that there was no other way any other religion could be the true religion except us.

plus, we used jehovah's name and didn't take it out of the bible but the preaching work was really the main thing that kept me in.... i was always afraid to really study just the bible because i knew a ton of things might not be right.

otherwise, why would so many jws be afraid to run into a greek scholar out in field service.

cattails

Reniaa you sound more like a Berean Bible Student than a JW.

They are honest to goodness Bible Students as in the ones

before Judge Rutherford changed the name.

But let me make this correction on your post...

It's Arians not Aryans btw (Aryan is the non-politically correct term

white supremacists use but Arian is based on belief of Arius teachings

on the divinity of Jesus and his relation to the Father).

So check it out: http://www.bereanbiblestudentschurch.org/beliefs.htm

Let me know what you think of it. PM me or something or respond

here if you're going to stick around.

For me the exit is still ongoing... I can't separate myself from my

family, yet anyway... It is very emotionally depressing just to think

I would be shunned and not associated with by those I love. But I

don't blame them... I blame the WT and their controlling ideas. I am

a Christian and I believe in Jesus as the Messiah, but by his grace

I'm closer to him and his Father than I ever was as a mentally

controlled JW. I can truly love God as one of his children bought

by the precious blood of His Son. That's where I am spiritually as

of now and right at this moment I wouldn't consider walking away

from my family even if they would not approve of my personal views.

At least I'm mentally free. That is good for now, although I have a

strong feeling that I cannot remain this way and be a sane and

well-functioning human being. I long to be free physically as

well as mentally and spiritually from the clutch of the WT.

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AVATAR the movie

by cattails in

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i want to go see it so bad when it comes.

out on dec 18th, 2009... uhhh armageddon.

isn't coming until after that right?

cattails

I want to go see it so bad when it comes

out on Dec 18th, 2009... Uhhh Armageddon

isn't coming until after that right? ;-)

A lot of JWs are bigtime trekkers, and

others know every single line in Star Wars

movies. But some are disgusted with aliens

and the idea of UFOs to them sounds like

demonic propaganda (like my Mother says).

But there's a movie called AVATAR that's

being put together right now and promises

to be a big hit. Read about it at:

http://avatarmoviezone.com/

... and then comment whether you'd go see it.

Would you have gone to it as a JW? Would

you run the risk of getting counseled by some

ultra-scrupulous but conscience-weak bro or sis?

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Toti demoted from Spanish Branch over recent Social Security and pensions

by iloowy in

the brother who over many decades had been the top-dog in spain branch of the wt, antonio "toti" rodriguez was demoted as the head of the legal dept.

and has been assigned a desk in the "service dept.

" at ajalvir, (spanish bethel).

cattails

It's pretty disgusting that JWs get counseled not

to be so materialistic. But then DOs and well connected

COs walk around with latest notebook laptops and even

the expensive little reader Amazon Kindle now!

It would be awsome if some of the higherups in Spain

would spill their guts on what's been going on behind

the scenes in the Spanish Branch fiasco, wouldn't it?

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Will the "sheeples" be assimilated into the anointed Borg?

by 1914BS in

in the early days, the appearance of the other sheeples (great multitude/crowd) was a real problem because the total number of anointed & sheeples were exceeding 144,000 so rutherford invented the idea of the great crowd which would make it possible to exceed the 144,000 limit.

nowadays, the exact same dilema is happening agian.

the sheeples are being kicked to the curb after so many years of being called the "generation".

cattails

> they would start listening to the real Master, Jesus Christ. At that point, they would cease being a Jehovah's Witness and become a Christian.

Amen, Civicsi00! Amen!

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Intriguing Plot to Topple The Tower...

by Tuesday in

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a friend of mine was making a joke the other day about what i would do with my spare time if there was no watchtower, he was wondering if anything could actually end the watchtower or make it obvious to everyone in the world that they are not the true religion and therefore kill off their supply of possible converts.

i mentioned luciousvbogeyman on youtube and his mentionings of a plot for nov 5th, 2017 which lead to a bunch of postulating on my behalf of what he could possibly be planning.. this lead to something i found pretty interesting and figured i'd post here to see what everyone else thought about it.

percent of attrition of jws is what around 60%?

cattails

I think the Rank & File would rally round their

Faithful and Discreet Slave class as expected.

There would need to be a lot of prior setting

up, by doing some recognisance and spy work

so that the foundation could be weakened.

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Toti demoted from Spanish Branch over recent Social Security and pensions

by iloowy in

the brother who over many decades had been the top-dog in spain branch of the wt, antonio "toti" rodriguez was demoted as the head of the legal dept.

and has been assigned a desk in the "service dept.

" at ajalvir, (spanish bethel).

cattails

Ok, so I was going to make a new topic

post and I can't for 5 more hours.

So here's some bit of news from Spanish

brother. Sorry to resurrect an old

thread... but there's mention of Toti

in it too.

So here's the e-news. Toti is in serious need of applying the counsel from

the July Awake! on "Depresión". According to the rumor from Spanish

brothers. Not only him but several others. Things aren't going well for

Spain Branch right now.

But there's this bit of interesting news too. The WT is looking into making

some of its publications available on the Amazon Kindle. And there's a

new Insight / Reasoning being considered to update the "new light".

The new songbook has been in the works for nine years now.

Problems between different departments getting together on what

they wanted have stagnated the project several times.

There's going to be two songs explicitely earmarked for use at

wedding ceremonies, [which one to use, which one to use???]

But... No word on the molested bees... will they no longer suffer

beating off in new song book? I'm eagerly expecting an answer.