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  What's a word that describes the way Witnesses behave as a group?

  by paul from cleveland in

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  i can't recall the word that describes a group that keeps to itself like the witnesses do.

  i thought it was "insular" but i don't think that's the one i'm looking for after reading the definition.

  i remember an elder using the word "clannish" and that has the proper definition but it reminds me of a group of elves.

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  Heaven

  Did I miss "Watchtarded"?
  
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  JW Brothers

  by Festus in

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  there is a group called jw brothers in facebook.

  somebody has posted an article that catholic church has covered up child abuse.. http://www.myfoxboston.com/news/national-content/catholic-bishops-not-obligated-to-report-clerical-sex-abuse-vatican-says/72976327.

  this is what somebody had posted as reply:.

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  Heaven

  Divergent, excellent post.
  
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  Where are the EXJW Feminist Philosophers?

  by Luther bertrand in

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  2. scandals

  i am working, more in the planning stages, where i am going to offer a commentary on the caleb and sophia cartoons that the org puts out.

  i noticed a heavily patriarchal bent to the narrative that these cartoons offer.

  i would really enjoy working with someone who has an academic background in feminist philosophy, or at least someone knowledgeable.

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  I am a woman but not 'trained' in philosophy nor feminism. I know what I like and what I want. I was raised in the religion but was never baptized. For what it's worth, here are my 2 cents.
  

  Misogyny is one of the main reasons I knew, as a teenage girl, I could not be a Jehovah's Witness. If you've read the Bible, then you know misogyny is a major theme in this foundational book of the various Christian religions. It is not a stretch to see the application of it in many religions, and not just Christian ones.

  As a JW, the expectation for me to live in subjugation to my husband turned my stomach and made me quite angry. It certainly wasn't what I wanted. I watched my Mother's individuality vanish under the oppressiveness of this religion. She got to a point where she couldn't even make decisions, heaping this responsibility solely on my Father's shoulders. I never wanted that. I value freedom too highly. Subjection is too costly a price for me to pay.
  

  Have you researched the origins of slavery and Patriarchy? This might be an appropriate starting point. Not all societies or belief systems use Patriarchy/slavery/misogyny but there were decisions made in the ancient past in certain parts of the world to adopt this. And not just men, but women also, had a hand in instrumenting the inception of Patriarchy. Why? One reason/theory ... to bring stability to a region's warring tribes. Marry the women from one warring tribe into the other tribe and suddenly, you're fighting your kin. I have yet to find out why the decision was to exchange women instead of men or children, but this is what I have found thus far.
  
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  The Pope Tells Trump He's Not A Christian

  by minimus in

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  this should be fun.

  building a wall is unchristian.

  i can't understand why the pope is getting involved in american politics.. poor donald..

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  LoveUni said: The Pope says Trump isn't Christian yet it was this very same Pope who said if people criticize religion they have to expect to get punched. That doesn't sound Christian to me either

  That's exactly what the Jay Dubyas would say.

  WTF is going on here?

  It is my understanding that 'turning the other cheek' is Christian, not retaliation. However, what I also know is that for every single person and every single 'Christian' religion, the term and definition of 'Christian' appears to be an ever changing and fluid one depending on circumstances. The ever shifting sands of religion/Christianity make me nauseous.
  
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  So Proud of Pops

  by brandnew in

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  ok so a car pulls up to the house and 3 eldurrs from my dads congo come up.

  they come in and have thee nerve to ask me to step out so they can speak to pops!!!!

  this is the good part.....pops says...and i quote " whatever needs to be said..can be said in front of my son".

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  When I took over my Dad's finances over 5 years ago now, the money flowing from his wallet and bank accounts to Botchtower came to a screeching halt. They have received the sum total of jack shite from him ever since.They will never receive ANY more money from him... EVER!

  This is your legacy Bothctower. Keep sticking it to your people and they'll stick it to you.
  
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  The Pope Tells Trump He's Not A Christian

  by minimus in

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  this should be fun.

  building a wall is unchristian.

  i can't understand why the pope is getting involved in american politics.. poor donald..

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  The Pope says Trump isn't Christian yet it was this very same Pope who said if people criticize religion they have to expect to get punched. That doesn't sound Christian to me either.
  
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  Can any believer make a case for the superiority of faith over knowledge?

  by Half banana in

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  i find it curious why so many here on this site, in the face of factual evidence for things such as evolution and the impossibility for anyone to make a coherent interpretation for the bible, would still prefer faith to knowledge?.

  can any believer attempt a defence of this position?.

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  "It's called Faith because it isn't Knowledge." - Christopher Hitchens

  Faith offers delusional comfort. Knowledge does not.
  
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  So Proud of Pops

  by brandnew in

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  ok so a car pulls up to the house and 3 eldurrs from my dads congo come up.

  they come in and have thee nerve to ask me to step out so they can speak to pops!!!!

  this is the good part.....pops says...and i quote " whatever needs to be said..can be said in front of my son".

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  brandnew.... as you once said to me, now I say to you... you are a good person for looking after your pops.

  And I am glad your Dad is finally starting to see the real truth of this religion. I am going for breakfast with friends this morning as well. No drive down the beach though... it's still a bit chilly here even though we are getting some above freezing temperatures.

  I hope you and your Dad enjoy breakfast. Hugs to you and your pops!
  
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  What Is The Watchtower's Biggest Problem?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  the organization has many problems.

  certain doctrines are problematic.

  the men who run the organizaion have issues.

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  Heaven

  Their biggest problem is with their foundational belief that they are God's Chosen.

  All their crap flows from this. You take away that belief and they are no more special than any other religous nutbag organization.
  
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  Evolution is a Fact #23 - Faunal Succession

  by cofty in

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  born in 1769, william "strata" smith was the eldest of five children of a oxfordshire blacksmith.

  he had only a basic education but became fascinated by local fossils when he began work on his uncle's farm.

  his flair for geometry inspired him to learn surveying which led to his career.. by 1794 he was supervising the building of the somerset coal canal, and was travelling around the country to visit other canal sites.

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  The fossil record is an amazing accomplishment and once again, refutes religious, creationist claims particularly that the Earth is only 6,000 years old, or that humans are 6,000 years old or that humans lived amongst the dinosaurs.