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  Why is it wrong for Christians to celebrate Christmas?

  by james_woods in

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  this was inspired by terry's thread.... it is something that raises many questions about the jw belief system.. .

  for one thing - the bible certainly explains all the details of the christ birth.

  it certainly does not tell people to avoid celebrating it with feasts, customs, etc.

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  'we don't put people on pedestals' - unless they are piousneers, elders, co, GB, etc, then they are always on the pedestal platform

  Definitely a two-faced rule for sure but as a kid that is what I was taught. I am not sure the 'annointed'/authority figures were as elevated in status back when I was a kid (circa 1960s and '70s) as they are now. At least, I don't remember that.

  Of course, my young mind immediately went to another question: If we don't put people on pedestals then why do we celebrate weddings? Isn't that celebration putting the bride and groom on a pedestal?

  I never got an answer to that one.
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  Billion + believe in Satan. Should all schools be mandated to teach Creationism?

  by Gnostic Bishop in

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  billion + believe in satan.

  should all schools be mandated to teach creationism?.

  we must save our children from foolish belief in the supernatural.. .

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  Schools should teach critical thinking skills.
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  Why is it wrong for Christians to celebrate Christmas?

  by james_woods in

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  2. friends

  this was inspired by terry's thread.... it is something that raises many questions about the jw belief system.. .

  for one thing - the bible certainly explains all the details of the christ birth.

  it certainly does not tell people to avoid celebrating it with feasts, customs, etc.

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  I was given a couple of reasons.

  One was the general birthdays excuses: 'we don't put people on pedestals' and because of John the Baptist getting beheaded.

  The other was the whole disgust with the pagans' Yule celebration and the supposed sexual practice of straddling the Yule log.
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  Man's best friend

  by zed revisited in

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  loyal to the end:.

  http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/30/us/dog-saves-family/index.html?hpt=hp_t2.

  zed.

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  I am sorry that the dog did not survive. I hope they catch these jerks!
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  I hate religion

  by Heartofaboy in

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  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2852739/nepal-devotees-sacrifice-thousands-animals-hindu-ritual.html.

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  Religion boils down to the following:

  If you don't tow their line, you'll be judged and punished, very possibly for all eternity. To appease God something must be sacrificed, the bloodier the better.
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  Be effective or people will die

  by Odrade in

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  my husband and i have been out of the org for quite some time, but still find that old ideas and values come up and bite us on the ass.. lately, i've been plagued by an increase in the frequency and severity of my nightmares (which have always been an issue,) so i've begun to dream journal.

  in just a few days, this realization cropped up.

  i can't save people.. i've been blogging again recently.

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  They said yesterday at the CA," Noah was a success even though he only saved 8 people." WHY??? He did what GOD said to do. So, what does GOD tell us to do? Just hang tight and the GB/SLAVE will tell you what "GOD" wants you to do.

  DD

  Interesting how God only talks to certain people and those people are the ones who want to foist this so called 'spiritual knowledge', aka opinions, on the rest of us. Misery loves company.
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  Science Stoppers

  by Coded Logic in

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  a science stopper is " a hypothesis that makes no testable or useful predictions and therefore prevents any science from being performed based on that hypothesis.

  " a common example of this would be the claim that god(s) created our universe.

  having no way of telling "created" universes apart from "non-created" universes prevents the claim from ever being verified or from being debunked.

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  "That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence." - Christopher Hitchens
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  Just when you think you're past it all...

  by Phaedra in

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  you"re now the "unbelieving mate" who is now pursuing your degree just before your mid-life crisis hits because until you woke up to the tatt, you bought into the whole "you'll never grow older in this system of things...".

  you're watching your parents grow old fully-invested.... your spouse still invested because "there is no better alternative....".

  your in-laws still won't come over tomorrow (thanksgiviing day) to eat turkey because it might just look like.... just when you think you're past it all and you feel that little bit of jw that is still there at your core eventhough you think you're beyond jwism..... and you remember and empathize and love your loved ones just a little bit more... because as of yet, they cannot find it in them to distance themselves from somethign you found limiting, closing, dark, and oppressive.. may they all find their freedom one day.

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  Wasanelder Once said: "Only love for someone else will break through because only then will what you say crack the facade of the old NY gangsters."

  One of the Alzheimer's Society social workers I spoke to about my Dad told me the exact same thing about dementia. She said 'Love transcends the dementia barrier.'
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  Lets list everything that has pagan origins!!

  by song19 in

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  i have a feeling i am going to have to explain to my jw folks why i have decided to allow my children to participate in holidays at school.

  theyll probably be wondering too why i will get together with our non jw family for the holidays.. .

  we know jws avoid holidays because of their pagan origins.

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  so, heaven,

  the israelites were pagans,

  lol

  Sssshhhh... don't say it too loud as it will freak out the Christians.
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  Lets list everything that has pagan origins!!

  by song19 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have a feeling i am going to have to explain to my jw folks why i have decided to allow my children to participate in holidays at school.

  theyll probably be wondering too why i will get together with our non jw family for the holidays.. .

  we know jws avoid holidays because of their pagan origins.

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  Wheel of the Year: